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Ask HN: How to get a job without degree?

#1
I dropped out of college. Now I am looking for a job but I'm struggling with approach. What is your advice on getting a job without a degree ?

Mostly I have problems with making CVs and I get anxious if I get question about my education.

Areas I'm looking to work in are incident response, malware analysis and system administration.

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#2
I recently started working as a software engineer and don't have a degree.

Build a strong portfolio of projects.

Supplement missing courses with MIT, stanford, etc from Youtube.

Don't take short cuts. Learn data structures and algorithms.

Be upfront about not having a degree. Call yourself "self-taught" it will cause you not to be so anxious. Well, that helped me be less anxious.

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#3
Do you have experience? If a person has the right kind of/enough experience I wouldn't care about their degree or lack thereof.

In the case of malware analysis I would expect somebody to analyze malware and write a report, I am sure you have seen these. These aren't too different from the kind of reports you would write in school; if you blogged about how you took apart a bad SD card you bought, that would demonstrate you have the research and communication skills that somebody might have learned in school.

Malware analysis also requires a holistic understanding about computers that a CS education is supposed to give you. You can get that understanding through reading and tinkering if you have aptitude for it, enjoy it, work hard at it and manifest that.

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#6
Just keep making stuff, in your CV put what school you attended and be honest for how long. The fact that you started college says a LOT about the person. Many people do not finish college for many reasons.

Keep making stuff, make new libraries to fill niches etc. As you get older AND have made more things your college experience will have less and less meaning.

But importantly, make lots of stuff, contribute to open source where possible (making stuff is more important though in terms of getting a job since it's easy for your contribution to get lost in open source if the project is big)

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#7
For context: No degree, Very comfortable (salary over 150, savings, family, etc) and in my mid 20s with 5 years of experience.

Here’s how I went from being generationally poor to that:

1) Taught myself the skill. Really put my head down and learned.

2) Demonstrate you know what your doing and have a passion for it (fake it if you don’t and just want to get paid) through projects, contributions, volunteering, having your own site with mentioned projects writing etc. You’re building an image here.

3) Literally get your foot in the door anywhere, doesn’t matter how bad. Mine was at a local web dev shop locally as an “intern” in a tiny office w/ 4 people.

4) Start racking up XP and use that XP as leverage going forward. I mean really sell it. And always talk up your previous experience.

People tend to care more about experience, ability to get shit done, and personality over education in this field.

But yeah that was my experience having been in the same boat.

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#10
Hi there, Java Dev at big tech company (not FFANG big, but big) here. Just did 3 interviews last week, and we have 4 more people lined up next week. I looked at resumes before each interview so I could see what experience they had and what they worked on, so I would know what to ask about, and could calibrate my technical questions appropriately.

I never once looked at someone's education. Quite frankly, I do not give a singular shit.

Management/HR might be different, other devs may have different attitudes. But I thought it might be worth putting my recent experience out there. Which, to reiterate, is that I care what you've worked on, and what you have experience with, not what credentials you have.

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