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Ask HN: What makes an online course amazing?

#1
For those of you who have taken online classes (MOOCs, at college, etc.), what have been the things that made the best classes stand out? (Or conversely, what made the bad ones bad?)

Why I'm asking: I teach a college data science 101 class with at least 1 section online every semester (and will now be switching to all online for at least the next month - thanks, coronavirus...). At the same time, I'm in the process of redesigning the course, and making new teaching materials and assignments.

I've taken completed several amazing MOOCs in the past (e.g. Princeton's Algorithms I & II, Stanford's Machine Learning), as well as abandoned many more that were simply terrible, so I am no stranger to the online student experience, and I know the things that made certain courses amazing for me personally (e.g. great videos, and well integrated assignments with automated feedback). However, every learner is different, and I would love to hear different perspectives so that I can better redesign my own course.

Was it something about the videos? The assignments? The structure? The instructor? Or something else? Thanks!

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#3
I don’t want amazing. I want efficient! Teach me at a speed not to slow and not too fast. Cover the correct topics.

A course with missable sections would be good so that if you already know ES6 you don’t need to listen through it on every JS course. Cheat sheets might help with this too.

I don’t care much for a super interesting voice as long as it’s a reasonable voice (not monotonous or unclear) and I can learn the thing.

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#6
I've taken Georgia Tech's OMSCS program. What really sets this apart is the active feedback on assignments / course interaction from Professors and TAs in Piazza.

Current online courses have really watered down content and zero/terrible ways of evaluating the material.

Things that I like too see in an online course:

- Keep assignments on a regular basis (on par with your campus schedule). Quizzes are great to keep them engaged but do not use them to replace regular assignments.

- Design them to be auto-graded as much as possible. Bonus points if there was some way the students can evaluate their solution locally.

- Something like Piazza/Forum setup to answer student questions and have an appropriate number of TAs.

- Post all the resources used in the videos to be accessible for later reference (slides and links).

If you're recording content for future offerings, ensure that the content is consistently updated to stay relevant.

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#7
I'm a technologist in Education. This frightens a lot of educators who are pretenders in Academia trying to lead technology development.

Supporting instructors, and instruction directly has been my main area of focus for the past year, in addition to being directly involved in developing online education platforms for the past 20 years in K-12, Academia and Industry.

I'm not sure if you have a tech background, but making sure you have competent technology advisement at all stages is quickly emerging as a key differentiator. If decision makers in academia haven't had technical literacy to make technical decisions, it shouldn't be a surprise if the experiences are not engaging, because they aren't leveraging digital interactions for what they're capable of, and instead only what a limited non-technical academic background can imagine.

Important:

- Not taking the lecture format classroom of the past 100 years and putting it online in video. MOOCs are handicapped before they even begin, quite often. Sure, great instructors who can explain well are good, but they are the exception, and not the norm. Another key problem remains.. god help you if you have to change the video. The key I focus on is how students are experiencing MOOCs as being the main lens. Academic institutions can have a hard time letting the frame go to be student centric instead of instruction-centric. Online education shouldn't be rooted in the practice of distance education (correspondence, textbooks, phone calls)

- The baseline of the student is that they are far more digitally literate and competent than the institutions they are walking to and most often more than their instructors.

- Much of the Academic online education world is designed and anchored in a past of a web browser on a desktop.. by educators who do not have competency in the possibilities or capabilities of tech.

- When it comes to making digitally engaging learning experiences, first you have to consider if academics rarely learn how to teach, let alone digitally.

- I would seriously pay attention to how students are interacting and studying digitally and focus far less on the existing taxonomies and nomenclature as it does not relate well to self-directed learning.

- The Copernican view of curriculum being the sacred cow of Academia is rooted in Math not changing much in a few hundred years, and generally the rate of change in curriculum being slow. In the real world, Academia is quickly reaching a point where they cannot update fast enough to keep pace with the change in the world, and the gap between students and entering a job is increasing.

- Again, see what students are doing to stay relevant - it's not always formal education.

- Learning how to learn is a course I reference early and often to all sides as the key skill being missed.

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#8
Hands-on, practical examples. If a class only includes video explanations and some quizzes on what was said in the lectures, I usually forget the subject matter quickly. The best MOOCs that I've taken are the ones that have periodic "lab" assignments which ask me to think and apply the subject matter in ways that the lectures may not have explained in precise detail.

Without naming names, here are two examples:

I once took a MOOC about "bare-metal" microcontroller programming which didn't include any microcontroller coding. Useless.

I once took a MOOC about digital circuit design which used an in-browser circuit simulator for problem sets and labs. Extremely helpful.

I feel sort of cheated when I work through an online course, only to find out that it would have worked just as well if it were a series of YouTube videos.

For college-level data structures, maybe you could ask students to implement their favorite DS from a set of tricky ones? You could write automated tests to verify them so grading is easier for you and development is easier for them.

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#9
All of the following in one website or tool/sw:

1/ Interactive tutorials and quiz format like brilliant.org

2/ A Wikipedia like comprehensive wiki embeded with course website for all kinds of reference.

3/ An online community — could be a piazza/forum.

4/ A github like service integrated with course site specifically for that course where students can submit their projects and be evaluated by other forum members/mentors etc.

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#10
I have developed a collaborative learning framework to support the development of learning experiences. The 4 key phases are

1. Resource curation 2. Guided active retrieval practice (questions, tasks, self assessment and feedback) 3. Collaborative experiences (professional examples, tadks and feedback) 4. Reflection and connection. (Connecting this learning to what has happened before or is likely to happen next

I will get the chapter (With evidence) up on a preprint server shortly -likely the end of the month. If you want the model - dm me on Twitter @maher_au

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