I am getting actively recruited from both large and small companies. I am not interested as a enjoy my job alot. But my yearly review is coming and I know from others that the negotiate raises. Should I let them know about this/will that leave a sour taste with them? I don't want to threaten but also want them to knnow where Im coming from.
Ask HN: Tell company I am getting actively recruited?
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Re: Ask HN: Tell company I am getting actively recruited?
#2In my opinion it comes down to approach.
If you hang a banner above your desk ("I'm being recruited all the time!"), yes they will have a sour taste.
If you go through your review, and you aren't making headway on negotiations without bringing it up - it might be time to approach it.
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#3I've always personally believed in the show-by-doing approach here. If you want to negotiate a raise, find a way to provide more value to your company, get feedback from your boss that it would be valuable. Then come review time, demonstrate that you've been contributing beyond your current role in this capacity.
Most engineers are getting messaged by recruiters regularly. This is not a surprise to your boss if he has good engineers on the team. But I don't think that leveraging this in itself is an effective technique for negotiating a raise. In my opinion, being recruited doesn't affect the value you create in your current role unless you believe that your comp is below market, or you have grown significantly beyond the role you're officially in now. Just my 2¢.
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#4y, I wouldn't express hey I'm being recruited.
If they value you and you are providing value use that as leverage. Sometimes no matter how good a developer you are or how valuable you are they won't give you the raise you think you deserve.
Sadly sometimes the best way to get a large raise is to change companies so keep that in mind.
Good luck.
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#5Everybody gets actively recruited. So the words don't mean much.
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#6> I am getting actively recruited from both large and small companies. I am not interested as a enjoy my job alot.
If your employer is aware that you enjoy your job and are not interested switching companies, that might lead them to not give you much of a raise -- since you're already happy and not going to leave. (Not everyone would think this way, but it's a fairly obvious line of reasoning).
Suppose your yearly review does not produce a result you are happy with. What are you going to do?
Are you cultivating alternative options for employment that you could tolerate and would give you the raise you desire? I.e. are you turning the inbound interest into actual offers for jobs and packages you'd be willing to accept?
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#7No, don't tell them. Not because they will take it as a threat but because you will look quite silly if you do mention this. Recruiters scan LinkedIn for anybody that has even just a couple mention of the skills they are looking for and then send all the matches messages along if they're be interested in a new job.
If you had an actual job offer on the other hand then that would be a different story. Then you could reasonably say "I have had an offer for this much salary so please can you match that otherwise you are asking me to work below my market rate for you and although I like working here I don't think it's fair to ask that of me".
Re: Ask HN: Tell company I am getting actively recruited?
#8No, don't tell them. Not because they will take it as a threat but because you will look quite silly if you do mention this. Recruiters scan LinkedIn for anybody that has even just a couple mention of the skills they are looking for and then send all the matches messages along if they're be interested in a new job. If you had an actual job offer on the other hand then that would be a different story. Then you could r…
Good advice. Also, if you have job offerers and you are not letting them know, but your colleagues are effectively communicating job offers they have, then they will be prioritised for a raise over you.
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#9Ha. I’ve been getting recruiting inbound every single day for years and so have many engineers I know.
It’s just largely top of the funnel spam.
Doesn’t give you any leverage, unfortunately.
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#10the best leverage is when you get an offer AND you're prepare to leave!