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Ask HN: Do things like WakeMate really work?

#1
WakeMate lets you wake up at the optimal time in your sleep cycle (https://secure.wakemate.com/).

Seems like an odd question, but as I am just about to buy one of these things: Do they really work? I mean: Yes, I know the theory behind it, but: Is anyone here who uses this thing (or something similar) and is really convinced of it? And how does it feel waking up without these things if you got used to using it?

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#3
Just a note:

I pre-ordered a WakeMate on November 25th, 2009 with a ship date in January. After the ship date passed, I got a "we're sorry" email which said that they tentatively planned to ship them in February. No word until March when they said they'd go out in March. In April, they told me the following:

"Based on your pre-order date (11/25/2009), you should expect your WakeMate no later than 07/30/2010."

I've heard literally nothing since. Their website now says that if I order a WakeMate today I'll get it in September 2010.

I can't speak to whether or not these sleep analysis tools work, but I absolutely can't in good conscience recommend buying this particular device (YC or not).

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#4
I've had the Zeo for about 5 days, so I can only provide feedback relative to that amount of time. It certainly SEEMS accurate with it's recording of my deep/rem/light sleep cycles. There's no way for me to really know though since I'm asleep.

I'm a data fiend, so having the data is worth more to me than the smart-wake feature. I cant speak for the WakeMate, but the Zeo will wake you up to 30 minutes before your target time if it is more optimal than your target time. I've not experienced any benefit from this so far, but like I said, only 5 days use.

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Just a note: I pre-ordered a WakeMate on November 25th, 2009 with a ship date in January. After the ship date passed, I got a "we're sorry" email which said that they tentatively planned to ship them in February. No word until March when they said they'd go out in March. In April, they told me the following: "Based on your pre-order date (11/25/2009), you should expect your WakeMate no later than 07/30/2010." I've he…

same issue here, I emailed them earlier today and asked if it would be to me within a year of me pre-ordering :(

WakeMate so far for me is a sad story of a good product with a poor planning/release cycle..

Also their front page still shows the wrist band that will look nothing like the one you will get

final wrist bands here http://blog.wakemate.com/2010/08/10/final-wristbands-3/

compare that to front page http://wakemate.com/

Perhaps they are shipping to their new customers; cause they think there is no way to please the old ones?

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post #3

Just a note: I pre-ordered a WakeMate on November 25th, 2009 with a ship date in January. After the ship date passed, I got a "we're sorry" email which said that they tentatively planned to ship them in February. No word until March when they said they'd go out in March. In April, they told me the following: "Based on your pre-order date (11/25/2009), you should expect your WakeMate no later than 07/30/2010." I've he…

They're apparently hiring:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1757816

It doesn't appear that customer service is a role they're looking to fill.

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#7
I owned and briefly used a very similar German-made device called the Axbo: http://www.axbo.com/axbo/CMS/CMS.aspx?Language=E

In my experience, it actually didn't work at all.

I suspect one main problem was that you could only set the alarm to wake you up within a 30-minute window, which meant there was a fairly high probability that the optimal point in your sleep cycle would occur before or after the alarm (given that the average sleep cycle is 60-120 minutes).

That said, it's one of those ideas that just sounds so compelling (Circadian rhythm!?! Sign me up!) It could work, the Axbo execution just didn't cut it for me.

I actually know the Wakemate guys, and I'm really anxious to try their product. I hope it works! For their sake, and for all those sleep-deprived hackers out there like myself!

One question I have for HN, though, is: given their supply chain troubles and the fact that, for all we know, their product may or may not actually work, what do you think about pre-selling a brand new product? Is it ethical? Is it advisable from a long-term strategic perspective (e.g. does it create the wrong expectations settings for your first users?)

I'd be particularly interested to hear from Wakemate!

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#8
post #3

Just a note: I pre-ordered a WakeMate on November 25th, 2009 with a ship date in January. After the ship date passed, I got a "we're sorry" email which said that they tentatively planned to ship them in February. No word until March when they said they'd go out in March. In April, they told me the following: "Based on your pre-order date (11/25/2009), you should expect your WakeMate no later than 07/30/2010." I've he…

Though biased (I wrote all of WakeMate's web-based software), I think the product is solid and works as described; Beta users have agreed. Release estimation and product management in general are clearly a different matter, but we have sent out multiple emails since April and the blog (http://blog.wakemate.com) is routinely updated.

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#9
Try an iphone app like "Sleep Cycle". It's worked just as well for me as the $150 "SleepTracker Pro" I bought a few years ago. Arguably better since the iphone app provides nice graphs and soothing wakeup music.

Does it work? I do feel like both the app and the watch nudge me awake at the right time, but you need to be disciplined enough to actually get up and make use of an unexpected 15-30 minutes in the morning.

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post #9

Try an iphone app like "Sleep Cycle". It's worked just as well for me as the $150 "SleepTracker Pro" I bought a few years ago. Arguably better since the iphone app provides nice graphs and soothing wakeup music. Does it work? I do feel like both the app and the watch nudge me awake at the right time, but you need to be disciplined enough to actually get up and make use of an unexpected 15-30 minutes in the morning.

I also had some luck with Sleep Cycle (though it wasn't mindblowing). It doesn't really measure your sleep cycle, merely your movements, but having an alarm going off while you're naturally turning over or otherwise not totally comatose seems to help. As you say, you still need the discipline to actually get up, but the value is in not missing the alarm due to being in a truly "deep" sleep.
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