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Ask HN: Have you relocated from the Bay Area to another tech hub?

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To accompany the current discussion about SV's housing frustrations- have you relocated to another city that has a substantial amount of tech jobs?

Preferably stories besides Seattle, Austin, or New York would be interesting- wondering if any Bay Area hackers have actually moved to Raleigh RTP, or any other secondary / tertiary tech hubs that don't get as much coverage.

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#2
Yes, I relocated to the Ann Arbor area. There is actually a fair amount of tech here both in Ann Arbor, in Detroit, and in Novi and similar surrounding suburbs of Detroit.

I work remote for a SF Bay Area startup though so I haven't explored local employment options too much. There is a big consulting company however the area they cover is large so you could end up on a project that has you doing a 1.5 hour commute (one way) for 6-18 months.

The research triangle area is attractive to me too. I just haven't had the time to make a trip there to get a feel for it. The housing is slightly more affordable than Ann Arbor although it's pretty close (light years better than Bay Area of course).

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Relocated from Bay area to NYC 7 years back - Back then, options were limited primarily to the financial sector. Right now, options are getting better , but still much lesser than the bay area

- You can find dev centers for most of the big companies such as Google/FB/Twitter etc. but their sizes and requirements are much lesser than Bay area. They are mostly satellite offices, and operate as such.

- You can find quite a few startups, but again they are not as many as Bay area and not as established as well.

- Of course there is the financial sector, which has lots of jobs - but expect a big culture difference, its highly competitive and cutthroat.

Housing: ========

I am not aware of how expensive Bay area housing is - but you can find pretty good houses an hour from NYC at Last but not the least, NYC has a unique global feel which is unparalleled :)

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Relocated from SOMA to West Seattle ~2 years ago. Went from paying 2300 for an 800sf 1br above a liquor store to 1750 for a 3br house with a 30 minute commute by bus. They have beat cops for transit here, which means they're not rolling mental institutions, and make for a decent commute. It's getting more expensive, what I have now would probably be 2300 in this market, but its' still an enormous quality increase over SF. I took a 10k paycut but it was negated by the friendlier taxes, and raises since mean i'm taking home more per month despite making less gross pay.

Austin was also on the list but offered woefully uncompetitive salaries.

I have family in VA and an alma mater in upstate NY, so the research triangle and tertiary hubs like Pittsburgh or Buffalo are always of interest, but the product design market in those cities is extremely anemic relative to the west coast.

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#5
I spent two terrible years in Mountain View for a work opportunity I couldn't turn down and it was horrible. Our rent went up 20% during that time. It felt completely unsustainable, ecologically and financially to live there.

We moved back to Boston and have been overjoyed with fleeing the peninsula. I'd still love to visit north of San Francisco of south of Monterrey on vacation but they literally couldn't pay me enough to live there.

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I moved to NYC from SF one year ago. On housing: I wouldn't say housing in central/downtown Manhattan/good parts of BK is cheaper than SF (probably still more expensive per sq ft), but if you are willing to live with a 30m-1hr commute by Subway (Queens, NJ, Upper Manhattan, less central parts of BK), then it can be decently cheaper than a similar commute into downtown SF. I live in downtown Manhattan, paying slightly more that I did in SF for half of a 2b/2ba that is definitely smaller than what you'd find on the market in SF but more renovated and in a much better location than what I could get for the same price in SF.

Agree that "good" opportunities outside of satellite offices are not as plentiful as Bay Area. If you are interested in "hard" tech (AI, ML, blockchain, self-driving, etc.) I would also say I've see much fewer of those types of opportunities here than on west coast.

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#7
I just moved to Portland from the North SF Bay Area. I work as an independent contractor which means in theory I would work anywhere, but my experience has been it's usually in-person networking and locally-based online groups that help me get new contracts. I wanted to move to Portland because the cost of living—while increasing—is less than the Bay Area, yet the amenities and quality of life there is similar. (And in some ways, better!)

I haven't gotten a full sense yet of what the startup scene is like here, but there's a great cowork space downtown (NedSpace) that is pretty active. There's also an online calendar of tech events that seems quite full: http://calagator.org

Anyone else here on HN embraced the cliché and moved from CA to OR?

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Relocated from Bay area to NYC 7 years back - Back then, options were limited primarily to the financial sector. Right now, options are getting better , but still much lesser than the bay area - You can find dev centers for most of the big companies such as Google/FB/Twitter etc. but their sizes and requirements are much lesser than Bay area. They are mostly satellite offices, and operate as such. - You can find quit…

There's also a burgeoning AI Hub coalescing. Although it has yet to assume critical mass. Facebook FAIR lab, Google Brain, Cornell Tech, NYU Futures Lab, Two Sigma, and hundreds of fintech experiments as well as a deep bench of VC activity. Many of the world's foremost AI researchers enjoy doing a stint here. Marinating in the frenetic, and admittedly neurotic, intellectual cross-pollination only NYC affords ;)

If any are interested there will be an NYAI Meetup tomorrow night, 6pm Tues Oct 24 at Rise in midtown with IBM Watson's Ruchir Puri presenting on "Reinventing Businesses with AI". Who knows? You may even wind up meeting your future YC team mates ;)

https://www.meetup.com/NYAImeetup/events/244178308/

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#9
What about CO? How is the market there now? I used to live there 4 years ago (then moved to the bay area). Curious how it is now.

I like the idea of a place like Portland for affordability/small city/ good public transport, but I also like the idea of sunshine...

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#10

Yes, I relocated to the Ann Arbor area. There is actually a fair amount of tech here both in Ann Arbor, in Detroit, and in Novi and similar surrounding suburbs of Detroit. I work remote for a SF Bay Area startup though so I haven't explored local employment options too much. There is a big consulting company however the area they cover is large so you could end up on a project that has you doing a 1.5 hour commute (o…

You should come visit, it's nice! My wife and I frequent Ann Arbor and also like it a lot.
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