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Ask HN: I'm an old programmer, do I qualify for diversity consideration?

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Re: Ask HN: I'm an old programmer, do I qualify for diversity consideration?

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What about me? (I'm young but feel old from all the js-framework-of-the-week/pico-services(a service for every non-constant value) /docker-in-kubernetes-in-vm/golang mumbo-jumbo)

I empathize, we are migrating from flat systemd services to containers/kubernetes because its the new thing. I don't understand change for change sake is somewhat annoying and pointless.

Re: Ask HN: I'm an old programmer, do I qualify for diversity consideration?

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Serious question: are you trolling? I hire programmers for a startup. When I do, we do not care at all how old you are. We care about attitude, skills, and aptitude.

Yours is an anecdotal comment. I'm glad to hear that your company doesn't engage in ageism, but just because you don't doesn't mean others embody the same cultural values.

[EDIT] Relevant story from HN last year: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/04/64-year-old-engin...

Re: Ask HN: I'm an old programmer, do I qualify for diversity consideration?

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What about me? (I'm young but feel old from all the js-framework-of-the-week/pico-services(a service for every non-constant value) /docker-in-kubernetes-in-vm/golang mumbo-jumbo)

I empathize, we are migrating from flat systemd services to containers/kubernetes because its the new thing. I don't understand change for change sake is somewhat annoying and pointless.

I once worked on a company that was using s3/sqs/etc even on dev/testing. I grew old just from the latency!

Re: Ask HN: I'm an old programmer, do I qualify for diversity consideration?

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post #6

Serious question: are you trolling? I hire programmers for a startup. When I do, we do not care at all how old you are. We care about attitude, skills, and aptitude.

Yours is an anecdotal comment. I'm glad to hear that your company doesn't engage in ageism, but just because you don't doesn't mean others embody the same cultural values. [EDIT] Relevant story from HN last year: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/04/64-year-old-engin...

Of course it is anecdotal. It has to be. There is no official, legal definition of diversity consideration in hiring. Nor is there any universal culture of applying it to hiring programmers.

Edit: I certainly understand that this type of discrimination occurs... I just don't think that age is typically an active consideration for companies with mature/experienced management. We all know that "not a good culture fit" can be code for things both fair and unfair.

Re: Ask HN: I'm an old programmer, do I qualify for diversity consideration?

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Age based discrimination is a thing, but it is nearly orthogonal to the context in which corporations think about diversity. This orthogonal its is a product of senior folks supposedly expecting more pay, and lack of oversight using age as a metric of diversity.

At the tech giant I work at, older technical folks seem to either climb the corporate ladder a few rungs or get ground into contracting peons. It's not pretty...

I find that a lot of 'new' ideas in computing are just the latest iteration. So there's certainly value in having folks around who have seen many iterations.

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