Ask HN: Would you sign up if a Phone Number is required?

#1

Post by warewolf » Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 1:06 AM UTC

Would you create an account on a App that requires a Phone Number?

The reasons for asking for a Phone Number are to prevent abuse, better control spam and make the accounts more secure.

More apps are now requiring a Phone Numbers to create an account. I also know some people are against sharing to much information.

Would you provide a number if it was justified? Are the reasons above justifiable?

Re: Ask HN: Would you sign up if a Phone Number is required?

#2

Post by macscam » Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 1:20 AM UTC

i think it's a good idea. It makes bans more permanent.

Re: Ask HN: Would you sign up if a Phone Number is required?

#3

Post by sharemywin » Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 1:20 AM UTC

I've given my phone number to microsoft and google but that's about it.

Re: Ask HN: Would you sign up if a Phone Number is required?

#4

Post by corecoder » Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 1:27 AM UTC

For a professional service where I can give the number of my employer, I might, but I'd be reluctant, as a few companies will start calling every day in an attempt to sell you the service.

Re: Ask HN: Would you sign up if a Phone Number is required?

#5

Post by Finnucane » Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 1:49 AM UTC

That's strictly need-to-know. So for most it's not. but then, I also use a fake empty Facebook account for sites that use social login.

Re: Ask HN: Would you sign up if a Phone Number is required?

#6

Post by Mendenhall » Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 1:55 AM UTC

Heck no. They will sell the number to marketers etc. They will get hacked and let my number out. They will send texts or calls or alerts. Their policies will change when new company buys them.....

Re: Ask HN: Would you sign up if a Phone Number is required?

#7

Post by bikamonki » Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 2:26 AM UTC

sharemywin wrote: post #3

I've given my phone number to microsoft and google but that's about it.

Which is to say: everyone has your number now ;)

Re: Ask HN: Would you sign up if a Phone Number is required?

#8

Post by bikamonki » Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 2:39 AM UTC

Why require the number? So you can send an activation/recovery code over SMS? Virtual numbers and pre-activated SIMs are easily accessible nowadays. You'd mitigate but not prevent abuse nor spam. In terms of security, SMS is NOT recommended to communicate sensitive data.

That being said, only a tiny few of us are concerned about privacy, most app users aren't, otherwise FB wouldn't have a billion users.

Re: Ask HN: Would you sign up if a Phone Number is required?

#9

Post by warewolf » Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 1:03 PM UTC

bikamonki wrote: post #8

Why require the number? So you can send an activation/recovery code over SMS? Virtual numbers and pre-activated SIMs are easily accessible nowadays. You'd mitigate but not prevent abuse nor spam. In terms of security, SMS is NOT recommended to communicate sensitive data. That being said, only a tiny few of us are concerned about privacy, most app users aren't, otherwise FB wouldn't have a billion users.

These are really great points. The thought process is that it will be used for authentication and recovery. I would say Virtual Numbers are a concern but most cost money and an email is free to create. Which was why I said better control spam. If they want to pay money to be a clown and troll I've already won anyway.

I think you are right about the concern of privacy. The scary part is most don't even read the Terms and Policy Agreement.

Re: Ask HN: Would you sign up if a Phone Number is required?

#10

Post by ixacto » Sun, Sep 18, 2016, 12:57 AM UTC

no. I don't trust many apps other than maybe apple. I assume anything I enter will be sold to the highest bidder.