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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#981
- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: GUI usable for office workers, migrated from other operating systems (you know the one) - DESCRIPTION: quite a few years ago I installed Ubuntu 10.04 for some small office workers starting their business. All requirements were internet access, email, work with office documents (printing and scanning) and PDFs. It took less time than I expected for them to adapt to Ubuntu. But when Unity became default, I migrated them to Linux Mint, just because of more familiar user interface. I hope Ubuntu 18.04 brings back classic UI option with stability and device support.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#982
FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop

HEADER: Ubuntu for grandma / grandpa

DESCRIPTION:

Easy to use / setup auto deployment of packages. If they want software it should be a click and install, never needing the terminal.

I'd like to install ubuntu on my grandparents computer and them not to call me more than once a month about computer issues.

That being said, I recognize this isn't easy, but it does seem to be the last blocker to being a truely competitor to windows.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#983
- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop

- HEADLINE: Ubuntu High Performance Remote Desktop

- DESCRIPTION: Ubuntu Desktop has achieved next level remote application performance with release 17.10. Recognizing that Ubuntu is the first choice among Linux developers and administrators that routinely utilize multiple machines in the course of their busy day, Ubuntu Desktop has refined and optimized the desktop experience for high performance over networks. This includes an emphasis on "low graphics" mode rendering of the Desktop UI and compositor-less rendering to minimize latency. As a result Ubuntu Desktop surpasses RDP, X, VNC and other protocols at providing a transparent remote experience for Ubuntu power users.

- ROLE/AFFILIATION: Developer+sysadmin.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#985
- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Any

- HEADLINE: Do changes in upstream when possible

- DESCRIPTION: Whenever possible, please make the changes in upstream, rather than keeping ubuntu specific patches (except for ubuntu specific features).

As notified in the blog[0], if there are changes for the installer, Let the changes be in Debian upstream (if Debian developers agree with, and if the installer won't remove advanced functionalities). The same for GNOME, Linux kernel, and everything else ubuntu is committed to.

Also Let the license terms of ubuntu packages used be acceptable to upstream. Say for example, the ubuntu fonts are not yet in Debian due to licensing issues. For a long time I hoped it will happen, and eventually I dropped ubuntu font and switched to inconsolata. I hope that the ubuntu font set will be relicensed properly (something like GPLv3+ with font exception or whatever that upstream is okay with).

Thanks

[0] http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2017/04/thank-you-note-to-hac...

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#986
- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop

- HEADLINE: Improve GNOME shell for less memory usage

- DESCRIPTION: I hope that ubuntu shall be using GNOME shell (with ubuntu specific changes) as noted in the blog[0]. Right now GNOME shell is using around 100-200MiB (even more for several others) of memory on usual usage. I hope this could be reduced to some 50 MiB consistently, or even less.

Also GNOME shell strongly depends on evolution-data-server, gdm, tracker (I think), etc. It would be nice if these dependencies are made optional (ie, recommended, but not required packages). So that gnome shell can be run on less memory IOT systems like RPi, older laptops etc without the other dependencies. This may require changes to gnome shell in upstream GNOME. Please do the packaging changes in Debian upstream.

Thanks.

[0] https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cl...

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#987
Long gone are the days I am able to spend hours setting up the perfect Desktop themes and window decor for my Fluxbox/xmonad WM on gentoo... Please Ubuntu team, give us an out of the box user interface that looks professional and not so damn cheap... It's a simple thing that has always bothered me. It is so damn ugly. Right out of the box I want a clean, beautiful, theme that I enjoy using and that looks as if it wasn't conceptualized in MS Paint. I ask for a minimalist/clean desktop theme I don't want to change immediately after I see it. I want quality, the kind macOS seems to pull off - professional work! Not like you grabbed GTK1 icons and slapped them on various applications. I am no artist, but I can recognize an eye sore when I see one! And for christ sakes please make it run as if it was actually tested once or twice... Such a vain request but christ.. Just give me a pretty Desktop and a nice terminal window with great decor so I feel like I am on an Operating System in 2017! I mean that ugly fcking purple... JUST STOP THAT! ends petty rant of ignorance

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#988

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One way to solve the scaling issue is to set the external monitor to a virtual higher resolution while still driving it at its native resolution (with scaling down done in GPU). Actually Linux/Xorg generally support this out of the box, it is just the higher-level software that would need to make use of it. You can try it youself: xrandr --output --scale 2x2 the result should be the given monitor will appear to have…

Unfortunately, this scales after drawing. The entire point of hiDPI is to have a crisper image. To achieve that, the scaling must be done at the drawing level.

Unity and Gtk would scale everthing up, so things that are properly drawn before being re-scaled.

So quality will be there.

For normal/low-DPI screens instead, you'd scale everything down, so you'd lose some memory CPU power, but you'd still get the quality result.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#989
- FLAVOR: [Ubuntu Desktop]

- HEADLINE: Tweak GNOME on Ubuntu to look a bit more classic

- DESCRIPTION: since Ubuntu drops Unity and will use GNOME - my suggestion is to tweak GNOME to look a bit like Cinnamon, that would make it easier for Windows refugees to migrate.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#990

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Improved remote desktop - DESCRIPTION: Remote desktop solutions for desktop Linux really haven't changed a whole lot since I first started using them in the late 90s. It would be great to get something out of the box that was as responsive and feature-rich as, say, Windows's remote desktop feature. VNC is functional of course, but lacks a lot of the fluidity of other remote deskto…

X2Go [1] and NoMachine (proprietary) [2] are the best bets for somewhat decent remote desktop experience in Linux.

[1] http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php

[2] https://www.nomachine.com/

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