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Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by trhr »

JofArnold wrote: post #779

The volume of applications we are getting for our open roles is huge and the proportion of them applying because they were laid off is higher than I've ever seen. Given that, as you will expect, hiring teams we need to process a lot of applications and make snap decisions. You need to ensure you rise to the top by - Keeping your CV brief and relevant - Making it clear what things you specifically did in previous role…

I've started telling new grads / interns that ask me "how 2 get jerb" to cut their resume to 1/3 of a page. Because we still need interns and juniors, and we already know they don't know a damn thing, and the only thing that would stand out at this point is _not_ making me read half a page about your capstone.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by azangru »

Varriount wrote: post #412
azangru wrote: post #259

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> I would suggest to email directly to a company hr or apply directly through company's job portal. Apply to companies that don't advertise on linkedin or similar portals. This is how I got essentially all of my jobs and this is how I get leads even now. How do you find out which companies are hiring, please? It's like a catch-22 situation: in order to know that a company is hiring, you need to know that the company…

Have you tried Indeed, Monster, etc.? Or failing that, contact the companies you're interested in directly?

I am sure I must have checked out Indeed; but when I look at it now, it is not as full of posts from recruiting companies as I remember. Still a lot though: "Senior X Developer required for one of the leading FinTech companies...", "We’re working alongside a leading scale-up... in order to to find a Full Stack X Engineer..." and so on. I wish there were a simple way to filter all those middlemen out.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by jimmychoozyx »

britzkopf wrote: post #847
jimmychoozyx wrote: post #744

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Everyone? Nah that's Hyperbole. In my experience about 40% do. I've never had an issue simply showing an open source past project I created, going through my portfolio of other project examples, and my resume.

I stopped interviewing about 4 months ago because this, in my experience, is NOT hyperbole. Also, 80% of job descriptions, threw kubernetes into the requirements on top of 10 other competencies seemingly just because they can.

Good to know.

Ya know... I posted that without experience in the current market. It was more of a "this is what it was like a year ago" sentiment.

Thinking more about it... I can see how 40% is too low an esimtate.

Thanks, good to hear what it is currently like out there on the job hunt. I am about to begin one myself.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by mythrwy »

richardwhiuk wrote: post #445
abathur wrote: post #430

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I have a parallel-universe version of the question--from a universe where I've ~idealistically refused to create a LinkedIn account. How would you go about finding a recruiter sans LinkedIn? :)

Swallow your pride.

No. I will never have a Linkedin profile. I will live in the woods and eat nuts and berries first. And I'm serious about this.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by blitz_skull »

Too wrote: post #950
blitz_skull wrote: post #435

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> whereas everyone else would call that person [with 5 years experience] a junior engineer I’ve met people with 3 years experience who I’d consider more senior than myself (8 years). Some folks just learn really fast and/or don’t do much else other than work. Not sure time is relevant to your skills or title after about 2-3 years.

There is the saying that to get 5 years of experience in 1 year you should work in a startup. This isn't only about title inflation. It is in some ways true in the real sense also. Because in a small team you get exposed to everything and if things don't work, it's very obvious why and there are no excuses to hide behind. Whereas in an enterprise you could sleep behind the wheel, roam around in pointless meetings, wa…

I think you hit the nail on the head there. I’ve only worked in startups and consistently I’ve worked with “senior”-titled engineers who were absolutely brilliant. Typically with less than a decade of experience.

But yeah there’s definitely no cruising at the wheel when you’re in a small, fast-moving organization. In my experience it’s helped me level up very quickly.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by cutemonster »

ryandrake wrote: post #815
galangalalgol wrote: post #758

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I wonder what would happen if you somehow managed to find what coffee shop the hiring manager was working from that day and sat down next to them striking up a conversation. Obviously most of the ways you could do that are super creepy if not illegal, but then so is most of what FB and crew make.

Your comment reminds me of an awkward story: I worked at a company once where we were having trouble with Apple's AppStore review. The app was delisted and we were losing money daily. It was so bad the CEO came in and led a meeting to brainstorm what to do--all wild suggestions welcome, and worker-bee me got to be a fly on the wall. One of the VP-level execs mentioned in this meeting that he happened to know some bre…

What did you do instead? Apparently you came up with something even better

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by jaculabilis »

whaleofatw2022 wrote: post #710
noodle wrote: post #602

As someone on the other side, with open positions we're hiring for: There are probably fewer job openings than there were, but I don't think my company or anyone in my network have changed HOW they're hiring, but we have definitely noticed a huge uptick in volume of applications. Earlier in the year, we were getting almost nothing. Now we're getting hundreds of resumes a week for each open position, and the bulk of e…

> and the bulk of each one of those resumes do not come close to even being in conversation range of the posted JD. Been seeing a lot of this too. Backend specific job, .NET, and we get a bunch of folks who are front-end devs with maybe python or node.

Man, I have backend-specific experience with .NET and all I can find are job postings for frontend, Python, and node. Where are your job postings?

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by ajhurliman »

firefoxd wrote: post #63

I hate to say this, stop applying. Find a recruiter on LinkedIn. This is what it has come to. There are thousands of resumes being sent at my company, yet the recruiter can't find anyone. Why? Because no one is applying through her link. The regular resume channel is reserved for bots at this point. Contact a person and you have more chances.

I’ve literally never gotten a job that didn’t come through a recruiter (except my most recent job). 10 years experience, every time I want a new job I just reach out to recruiters who have contacted me recently and recruiters I’ve had good experiences with in the past, they’ll bring me a handful of random jobs and I interview for the ones that sound like a good fit.

The most recent job the hiring manager saw my post on HN: who’s looking to be hired, and they just reached out directly.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by 93po »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #624
collaborative wrote: post #493

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I haven't looked for jobs in nearly 9 years now. Is a LinkedIn profile essential nowadays? I have dropped all social media and LinkedIn is one of the most invasive. I really dislike how it notifies you for everything

Funny story about how linkedin's oversharing ruined a potential date for me: Recently I have been online dating, and while talking to a match, she dropped that she works a relatively high position in state government. So naturally I googled her name (only had her first name) and the position and clicked the first link. "Oh wow, she is, that's cool!" A minute later she messages me "Checking out my linkedin?" I was sup…

The reality is that she wasn't going to be a good match if she wasn't able to communicate if she had a concern like your linkedin not matching, or even just give you the benefit of the doubt. Imagine what else she wouldn't communicate.
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