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Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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- FLAVOR: Desktop - HEADLINE: Make trackpads great again! Bring on gestures by default. - DESCRIPTION: Trackpad config situation is a mess. Pretty much every Ubuntu derivative has its own simplified (reads severely lacking) interface. What's worse is the gestures configuration. It's mostly done via some dude's one off scripts found on some forum post 2 years ago. Give me a MacOS like experience on the trackpad (espec…

Instead of putting too much effort in to Ubuntu phones they could team up with some manufacture and release Apple-like external touch pad with 100% integration with the system.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#922
post #14

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop: 1. HEADLINE: A way to have different scaling for external monitors hooked up to my HiDPI laptop. Currently I need can only set a single scaling factor, so I need to ajust my laptop screen resolution to match scaling of the external monitor. If that's not possible, a way to automatically set resolution and scale for both screens once you hook one up would already save me a lot of manual switc…

Ubuntu Unity Developer Here...

I'm mostly replying at the point 1., as it's closed to what I do...

I know we should offer an UI for that, but waiting for that you can just workaround this.

Well, as said unity supports scaling, although it's not possible to scale toolkits per monitor.

However... There's actually a good workaround for this, that works fine for multiple monitors.

The idea is that you scale everything up to 2x / or your maximum scaling (including window contents), then you scale the non-HiDPI monitors down using xrandr --scale

For example, if you want to use normal resolution there, you just have to do something like:

xrandr --output --scale 2x2

In this way it will be scaled down, and everything will be readable and almost 1x1.

You can test this in normal resolution monitor as well, and you'll see things should be pretty good.

I should find some time to implement this directly inside UCC / USD, so that users will get this for free...

Notice that there's also a bug in X causing some mouse trapping, so you'd probably also need X to be patched as explained in this bug: https://pad.lv/1580123 (we'd like to include this upstream, but we're waiting for X upstream approval for that)

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#924
post #239

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Please, please, please fix space issues with /boot. - DESCRIPTION: I'm constantly running out of space in /boot, due to kernel updates. It drives me so incredibly batty. If I had to guess, this is due to poor defaults in the installer for folks that opt to encrypt their whole disk. Even still, this system was setup back on 14.04 (don't think it started on 12.04), and I have no int…

I quit using Ubuntu as a Desktop OS because this was so obnoxious. I would gladly return if they fix this.

This will get fixed. Mark my words ;-)

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#925
FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop

HEADLINE: Streamlined terminal window size and positioning

DESCRIPTION: As a developer, I spent most of my time in the terminal. Having ctrl-alt-t to open a terminal is super helpful, but the default positioning is less than ideal because there is a lot of wasted space with the default terminal size, and a lot of overlapping for a large size. I used to use x-tile in Ubuntu 14.04 and its "quad-" option, but it is broken in Ubuntu 16.10 at least for me (dual monitor). I now use ctrl-alt- to organize the windows, but still feel there has to be something better than that.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#926
- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Server

- HEADLINE: Better handling of apt and dpkg locks during apt-get upgrade/update

- ROLE/AFFILIATION: Cloud hosting provider

- DESCRIPTION: Thanks for taking our feedback! I work in cloud services and deal with many Ubuntu 16.xx users of various skill levels. One of the most common issues that I see are folks reporting that the "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" commands fail on newly deployed cloud servers. I wouldn't really classify this as a bug, but some internal changes to the apt/apt-get commands could make things a lot smoother. Here's what happens.

1. Cloud service providers periodically make a disk image of Ubuntu 16 with the latest packages an updates. 2. These images are used for several weeks (or sometimes even longer). 3. When customers deploy a new Ubuntu cloud server, the disk image is copied to a new machine. 4. The machine boots. Ubuntu realizes that it hasn't been booted for a while and performs some internal tasks. IIRC this is related to the "apt daily updates" service. This is the thread I always seem to reference ( http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/315502/how-to-disabl... ). The apt tasks run, which can take serveral minutes. 5. Asynchronously, the cloud service reports that the server is ready. 6. The customer (or their scripts) will login and do some provisioning. A common first provisioning step is to do a package update: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade". These may fail if the "apt daily updates" task is still running. I've seen a variety of errors, but usually look like this:

> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) > E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/

When running "apt-get update" during this state, it sleeps for a few moments, then reports an apt/dpkg lock error. Since most of the time this whole process happens autonomously, it seems like making "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" block until a lock is available would be quite beneficial. Documentation on the web for upgrading ubuntu usually references these two commands, so I don't think adding new parameters would be that beneficial; changing the default behavior would be better.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#927
post #465

OK here goes.. - FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Drop Mir & collaborate with Wayland - DESCRIPTION: I know this is a touchy subject and I'm not looking to self-righteously re-re-re-ligitage everything but... between Intel walking away, licensing concerns, Ubuntu varients not jumping onboard, and various community concerns, would you re-consider abandoning mir and joining forces with Wayland? I understand you felt…

> Drop [Canonical-specific] & collaborate with [leading variant] That would be great in general. Linux Mint is known as "Ubuntu minus Canonical" for a reason.

Linux Mint is also "Ubuntu without Security". That's right -- Linux Mint does not install Ubuntu's security updates, nor supply their own.

Stated another way: 100% of Linux Mint machines in the world are either:

(a) already pwned

or

(b) vulnerable to multiple CVEs and will be pwned

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#928

FLAVOR: Desktop HEADLINE: Pick an official laptop for the release. ROLE: End-user, Sysadmin, Developer I would love for Ubuntu to, with each release, pick a laptop vendor and a laptop and just Make It Work. All the components. Out of the box. As near perfect as one can get it. So when I'm in the market for a new laptop, I can just buy that one. And I'm not talking about a pro gear like the XPS. Just simple, cheap con…

This is a nice idea, actually. I'll have to see how to work this out with our partner ecosystem.

In the meantime, perhaps you'll find the list of hardware certified to work with Ubuntu useful: https://certification.ubuntu.com/

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#929

FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop HEADLINE: Streamlined terminal window size and positioning DESCRIPTION: As a developer, I spent most of my time in the terminal. Having ctrl-alt-t to open a terminal is super helpful, but the default positioning is less than ideal because there is a lot of wasted space with the default terminal size, and a lot of overlapping for a large size. I used to use x-tile in Ubuntu 14.04 and its "quad-…

Interesting... So I most of my time in a terminal too. As a rule, I always (a) run gnome-terminal in full screen, (b) always run byobu in the terminal, and then (c) always use byobu/tmux to split the screen up into a bunch of shells doing their things.

This is a good idea, though!

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#930
post #557

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Server - HEADLINE: Built-in support for installing up-to-date packages - DESCRIPTION: Currently, `apt install [package]` on LTS Ubuntu will install a package that is up to 24 months out of date (or more if you're not on the latest LTS). Literally one month ago, using the latest version of Windows 10, I installed Ubuntu for Windows (which installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS), and `apt-get install nodejs` insta…

Ah this is a good idea, and one we're very specifically trying to solve. The way you're going to do this in Ubuntu will be with the "snap" packaging manager!

You can already use "snap install ..." to install hundreds of latest/greatest software packages, which evolve independently of the underlying OS. We're investing even more heavily here, so please do stay tuned, and try out snaps!

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