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Re: Ask HN: Advice for freshmen entering college

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post #82

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To whom?

employers. a MBA from an ivy league school carries more weight than a MBA from the university of phoenix.

He was talking about a PhD.

MBA's are more a function of whether or not you can pay for the program than your undergraduate grades really.

Re: Ask HN: Advice for freshmen entering college

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I think chasing women is a terrible use of one's college years. The women are mostly immature and have terrible tastes in men. Better for him to recognize that he probably won't meet a marriage-worthy woman until his mid-20s, suck it up and work hard until then. I definitely regret having lost a lot of great learning opportunities because I was fooling around with spoiled, immature, half-formed people. Very few men,…

This assumes that a person is looking for a soulmate in university. I certainly wasn't. There's lots of benefit to dating many different women - just make sure you don't lose sight of yourself. You can't pick out the good ones if you haven't been with a few bad ones. I learned more about myself dating a few crazy girls (and it was never boring) than I did dating the straight-A overachiever.

You can't pick out the good ones if you haven't been with a few bad ones.

I don't think this is true. I know some people who luck out on the first try. Also, I know a lot of people who seem never to have dated bad people. They've dated some people ill-matched to them, and had some breakups, but they've never dated someone I consider to be a rotten person.

I think there's little to be gained by dating horrible people, except some unwanted emotional baggage. There's a lot to be gained by dating good people who aren't right for you; this is how you find out what you're looking for and refine your tastes.

Re: Ask HN: Advice for freshmen entering college

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Don't skip class. College is easy if you actually go to class and pay attention.

That depends entirely on the class! I had classes that were easy even if I didn't go to class, and others that were hard even if I went to every class. (I even signed up for overlapping courses once, and skipped out of an uninteresting mandatory one halfway through every lecture to go to the other.) Far more important to me was getting together with other students to work on the material.

That's what college is about: figuring out how you learn best. If you know that, your school/major/etc. don't matter.

Re: Ask HN: Advice for freshmen entering college

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post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

employers. a MBA from an ivy league school carries more weight than a MBA from the university of phoenix.

He was talking about a PhD. MBA's are more a function of whether or not you can pay for the program than your undergraduate grades really.

i was using an MBA as an example, as its usually the most exaggerated.

another example is that there is a well known preference inside of google for PHDs from a specific set of schools.

Re: Ask HN: Advice for freshmen entering college

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post #80

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I think chasing women is a terrible use of one's college years. The women are mostly immature and have terrible tastes in men. Better for him to recognize that he probably won't meet a marriage-worthy woman until his mid-20s, suck it up and work hard until then. I definitely regret having lost a lot of great learning opportunities because I was fooling around with spoiled, immature, half-formed people. Very few men,…

I strongly disagree. College is a great time to take the next, probably awkward step with the opposite sex. If you don't, you're stuck learning those skills while you're in "the real world", a setting which is generally less amenable to meeting lots of people who are around your age, thus inhibiting your rate of learning. The goal is not to meet a soulmate at 18, but to become comfortable interacting with potential s…

College is a great time to take the next, probably awkward step with the opposite sex. If you don't, you're stuck learning those skills while you're in "the real world", a setting which is generally less amenable to meeting lots of people who are around your age, thus inhibiting your rate of learning.

You have a really strong point here. I guess my argument would be that most of what happens with the opposite-sex is detrimental and unpleasant, and can derail a young man from actually learning and getting some work done.

In an environment where earnest dating still exists, respect between the genders is the norm, men are prized for their intelligence, character and culture rather than shallow traits such as social status "game", and sleazy hookups don't happen, I'd argue in favor of entering the dating scene as soon as possible. In that arguemnt, I'd argue that everyone (who's single) should jump in. Unfortunately, that's not the type of environment that exists on most college campuses (although I know nothing about Olin).

Re: Ask HN: Advice for freshmen entering college

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I think chasing women is a terrible use of one's college years. The women are mostly immature and have terrible tastes in men. Better for him to recognize that he probably won't meet a marriage-worthy woman until his mid-20s, suck it up and work hard until then. I definitely regret having lost a lot of great learning opportunities because I was fooling around with spoiled, immature, half-formed people. Very few men,…

Curious, I regret not getting laid in college. Maybe it's best to accept hook-up culture for what it is, and accept that most college girls (and boys, too) are spoiled, immature, half-formed people. But where else can you find hundreds of hot young women that are looking for no-strings-attached sex? Then again, this is Olin, which may complicate things because just about every woman you meet is almost certainly someo…

Maybe it's best to accept hook-up culture for what it is

I can't do this. I haven't met her yet, but I value my future wife enough not to have sleazy hookups while I'm young. It's not fair to her. Similarly, I'm not going to go out damaging young women because some elements of society say I "should" establish my manhood by behaving badly. These are other mens' future wives; I don't have the right to do that!

But where else can you find hundreds of hot young women that are looking for no-strings-attached sex?

This can be bought. I've never done so, I don't think I ever would, and I'm generally opposed to this. However, it's a more honest style of transaction than a college hookup, wherein the woman is too drunk to be qualified as consenting (in many states) and the medium of exchange is "game" rather than money.

So long as the woman is consenting, I think prostitution is less sleazy than hookup culture. It's also probably cheaper-- the costs are well-defined; also, as long as you aren't already in a relationship (cheating is a different story) it probably won't ruin your mind or your life, which participating in the "hookup culture" that has replaced dating often does.

Re: Ask HN: Advice for freshmen entering college

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post #12

Don't skip class. College is easy if you actually go to class and pay attention.

I disagree on this point. I skipped classes left, right and centre. I'm sure it annoyed the hell out of my lecturers, but I was spending my time doing things that turned out to be much more valuable in the long run. For example, I did actual research! By the time I was finished with my undergraduate programme, I had enough "real" research experience to gain entry to a very good PhD programme in another country. This…

Good for you that this strategy worked for you, but as others have commented, this relies on your ability to efficiently recognize classes you don't need to attend. The penalty for attending class when you didn't need to is a few hours a weeks spent in suboptimal times, but you can still work on other things at that time. The penalty for missing a class where you needed to be... well, that's your grade, buddy.

I recommend erring on the side of conservatism, as it's easy and attractive to self-deceive into an overinflated concept of what we would have done with our time (hack vs TV+videogames+internet)

Re: Ask HN: Advice for freshmen entering college

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post #73

It's a bit random, but: if you're not already in good shape (and many of us hacker types aren't coming out of high school), find where the gym is and learn what to do there, and go three times a week. College is one of the first chances where you A) generally have free access to a decent gym, B) have enough control over your own time to set a workout schedule, and C) you're generally old enough that working out will…

I strongly agree with this. It's never too late to start hitting the gym either. I, like many others, gained the 'freshman 15'. Then I started hitting the gym and lost the weight and got myself into the good habits that helped me for the rest of my life.

An understated portion of college life is that it is independence with training wheels. You have the ability and chances to make wonderful mistakes and learn the reflexive life-lessons from them, but without suffering the odious penalties that one would incur as a fully self reliant adult. Learn to do laundry, to cook, maintain a healthy diet, balance your finances, to meet people who haven't known you since kindergarten, to act ways that the 'rents wouldn't approve. Find out who you are and shape it.

Enjoy yourself, and good luck.

Re: Ask HN: Advice for freshmen entering college

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If you pass, grad school is an option. Maybe not the top echelon, maybe not right away, but it's always an option.

Don't do this. The name of the school on your PhD does matter.

Really? I would naively expect the outcome to matter a lot more. As a PhD, your work product has a lot more transparency than B.S./M.S. degrees, because people will actually hear about your work if it matters (for several different, valid definitions of "hear about" and "matters"). However, I would also naively expect the name of the school to correlate with outcome, but only because because different professors work at different schools.

Re: Ask HN: Advice for freshmen entering college

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post #85

This is the advice I would have given myself at 18: Don't fret girls and relationships. I'm serious. Focus on making friends (male and female), working on interesting projects, and learning everything you can (academic and otherwise) during the next 4 years. You may have inflated expectations of college women, assuming that intelligence and good behavior, decent tastes in men, etc. are correlated. I sure did. In fact…

On the other hand, in college it is MUCH easier to date and meet people than in the real world once you start a job or company.

I wish I can upvote you a million times over. This is something most people don't really appreciate until they leave college.

As a recent grad this is something that bothers me. In college almost anyone you meet (of your interested gender) is in your dating pool - you are at most a couple years apart in age, everything works out, you're at the same stage in life, etc.

Once you leave you will find that:

1 - Chances for socializing drops through the floor. You actually have to try at it, but that isn't the main problem, though you do end up meeting way fewer people per day than you used to.

2 - Only a very small portion of the people you meet and befriend are within your dating pool (age, expectation, stage in life, etc). Add this onto #1 and you might actually start thinking about dating services. I know I am.

Any other HNers with similar experiences? I'm at a bit of a loss here - clearly I can't be the only one in this situation, but it seems odd that we allow this gigantic social hole to exist. Am I missing some dynamic of "being an adult"?

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