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Ask HN: When did computers stop being fun?

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Re: Ask HN: When did computers stop being fun?

#91

Interesting — why does this post get penalized from any top HN page even after 40+ points in two hours?

No one knows. Don’t worry about it. Just because it resolves to a number doesn’t make it matter.

Slightly off-topic, but does this human fetish of "big number sounds good" thing have a name?

Re: Ask HN: When did computers stop being fun?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What sorts of things do you do with a NanoKVM?

Mine hasn't actually arrived yet! I'm still waiting for it in the mail. I don't think I'll tweak that much, all I really want to do is flash the published open source firmware, attach it to my tailnet and use it to control a little server I keep in the crawl space under the house (because crawling under there whenever it needs a reboot + entering disk encryption keys is distinctly unpleasant).

Ah fair enough. I thought you were talking about hacking it to do novel things. :)

I have one on a server. The server itself is accessible (it's in the rack cabinet I have in the office) but sticking a display on it is fiddly on a good day, so it's been a major QoL improvement!

Re: Ask HN: When did computers stop being fun?

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For me, it was the first week after I installed WinXP (or maybe it was Win2000? can't remember). I tried to delete a file, I think it was a driver, and I got an "Access denied" error. I was absolutely shocked. What do you mean access denied? It's my computer! My file! You don't deny me anything! I tell you what to do and you obey. I booted my DOS system floopy and erased the whole partition. End of fun.

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It seems to be strongly correlated with (and perhaps caused by) the iphone / smartphone / tablet boom of the 2010s. That's when lots of mass market things slowly shifted from being on "computers" or "the internet" into being apps, which are inherently geared towards consumption and not creation, and encourage storing all the data in "the cloud" instead of on the device.

That left "desktop" computing as no longer where the action was, but just a legacy platform for people doing their day jobs, and most things being dumbed down into single-purpose apps that cannot be modified, customized, combined, or anything fun/interesting/not intended by the vendor.

Re: Ask HN: When did computers stop being fun?

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When you turn 30

From what I've seen, it's the other way around - computers are still fun for the old nerds.

I go to events like vintage computer festivals, and old folks are having a party with computers.

I look at younger people with computers, and for the most part they are just commodity tools for hosting apps and watching media. Even younger people describing what they are doing for fun with computers are building "home labs" of application hosting systems.

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agreed, I think much of the appeal for me is the physical element of wiring things up and seeing it do something more than changing a few pixels on my screen. Soldering is very relaxing as well.

How you know me so well. I also like how cheap all of the parts and pieces are. It's like the next step after Legos. Although, they have way more interesting Legos today than what I had as a kid. I've bought components with an a specific project in mind, but once it's built I find myself taking them apart and making a new something with it combined with other parts I have lying around. Things are cheap enough that I…

Yes exactly! I still can't believe how cheap an ESP32 is - a device with bluetooth, WiFi, and ample processing power and RAM for most tasks you'd use an MCU for. And yeah I love finding out I already have all the parts I need. Now, keeping them organized, that can be a struggle. I have a couple of these double sided tool organizers [1] and a tackle box, but sometimes I'm still digging through bins to find a part I know I have but can't find

[1] https://i.imgur.com/4KpnFZJ.png

Re: Ask HN: When did computers stop being fun?

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I think that the evolution of my relationship toward computers correlates with a decline in my affection for “a computer can do X” ideas. And that correlates with a self-awareness of what actually motivates me to act.

I can learn “ten things a computer can do” from twelve minutes on TicTube. But non-trivial things I am motivated to do play out over years. Also, I no longer fret missing out…fomo is a young person’s malady.

Re: Ask HN: When did computers stop being fun?

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> Basically, the spark I felt some 25 years ago seems to be completely gone.

Shocker, you're 25 years older and feel nostalgia for the way things were when you were young.

> I won't vibe-code it, what's the fun in that?

I mean, find out what the fun is in that? Or don't and cry on HN? Your choice.

> I don't care for coding new stuff.

OK, don't code new stuff then.

Take the opposite view that computers are more fun than ever and see if you can understand that perspective? What would someone who believes that be doing on their computer? Why would that be fun for them?

If you're not willing to consider that seriously then yeah you're probably just going to get sadder and sadder.

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