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Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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What sector/size are your offers? The "who is hiring" is shifting. Many large corps are now feeling a couple of squeezes from more expensive capital, to finding their footing in a quickly changing world, to over-hiring, to market pressures to "AI-ify" themselves (doubles as excuse to layoff caused by former three squeezes).

Mid-market saas seems to be getting crushed at the moment for different reasons.

Startups and the AI shops can't hire fast enough, but also seem to be looking at different candidate profiles.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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I'm kinda looking at jobs available (Europe): - AI (as in: stupid AI wrappers "disrupting" shit) - FinTech - Gambling - AI in FinTech That's about 99% of jobs advertised. No idea how hard it's to get hired, but even jobs on offer are shitty.

And it’s been like this since ~2023

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone maybe in group (2). What kind of stereotyping is this? And why do you want to have non-complaining worker drones? Maybe older people from those countries are good at keeping their head down in soviet style work configurations, but is this the kind of company you want to have? I'd more guess it is that there is a severe income tax advantage, B2B contracts are also easier in eastern Europe.

> why do you want to have non-complaining worker drones We want opinionated engineers. But we want engineers who will respond to a slack message after 5pm during a P1 escalation. > I'd more guess it is that there is a severe income tax advantage Somewhat but not enough to move the needle because depending on the local government, they are matching cross-EU subsidizes. > older people from those countries are good at k…

Hey, care to share some company names if you're still hiring?

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK shitty job market means different things to different people. For my self, I was making over 300k, took a job (remote) at a little over 200, and now struggling to get that much and considering jobs at 170-180. I think the job market sucks, those jobs paying 300+ would normally respond to me aren't.

I don't even know what I would do with that much money. Maybe have 4 or 5 kids.

Retire earlier?

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone maybe in group (2). What kind of stereotyping is this? And why do you want to have non-complaining worker drones? Maybe older people from those countries are good at keeping their head down in soviet style work configurations, but is this the kind of company you want to have? I'd more guess it is that there is a severe income tax advantage, B2B contracts are also easier in eastern Europe.

> why do you want to have non-complaining worker drones We want opinionated engineers. But we want engineers who will respond to a slack message after 5pm during a P1 escalation. > I'd more guess it is that there is a severe income tax advantage Somewhat but not enough to move the needle because depending on the local government, they are matching cross-EU subsidizes. > older people from those countries are good at k…

>But we want engineers who will respond to a slack message after 5pm during a P1 escalation.

Then you're going to have to pay, aren't you.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

#98

My current job search has been the longest and most difficult of my career (5 months so far). Caveats: - I’m only applying with climate tech companies - I’m trying to transition back to engineering after a detour into product - I’m trying to pivot into more hardware-focused roles Most companies I apply to don’t respond at all, and I’ve had about 6 phone screens, two technical interviews, and one “we’d love to hire yo…

I suspect the third criteria might be the hardest.

In my experience HW companies are rarely interested software engineers from other, non-related domains unless they’re hiring a team to do web interface or something.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not in SF. I'm making mid $100k and interviewing for remote jobs in the $170k+ range.

OK shitty job market means different things to different people. For my self, I was making over 300k, took a job (remote) at a little over 200, and now struggling to get that much and considering jobs at 170-180. I think the job market sucks, those jobs paying 300+ would normally respond to me aren't.

Yeah, this is my current read on the market. If you're looking for typical $400k senior software eng role at a public tech company - you're going to be having a really hard time. Meta closed many roles and is laying off 8000. The rest of the public tech market seems to be following similar.

If you're looking at 200k/yr roles in SF that are in person and looking closer to 996 than not - plenty seem to be hiring and trying to recruit. Downside? You have to be in SF 6 days/week and it's shit pay for the region. (You will likely have to do roommates because $200k/yr is borderline for a decent apartment in SF now due to 20% yoy price hikes)

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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My current job search has been the longest and most difficult of my career (5 months so far). Caveats: - I’m only applying with climate tech companies - I’m trying to transition back to engineering after a detour into product - I’m trying to pivot into more hardware-focused roles Most companies I apply to don’t respond at all, and I’ve had about 6 phone screens, two technical interviews, and one “we’d love to hire yo…

Good luck, brother.
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