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Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

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Post by socalgal2 »

bigthymer wrote: post #80
bxparks wrote: post #37

A lot of things on https://killedbygoogle.com/ . I used to use 30-40 Google products and services. I'm down to 3-4. Google Picasa: Everything local, so fast, so good. I'm never going to give my photos to G Photos. Google Hangouts: Can't keep track of all the Google chat apps. I use Signal now. Google G Suite Legacy: It was supposed to be free forever. They killed it, tried to make me pay. I migrated out of Google. Go…

I'm still upset that Google Maps no longer tracks my location. It was very useful to be able to go back and see how often and where I had gone. Is there another app where I can store this locally?

Google Maps still tracks my location.

The difference is they no longer store the data on their servers, it's stored on your phone (iPhone/Android)

https://support.google.com/maps/answer/6258979

That way, they can't respond to requests for that data by governments as they don't have it.

I can look on my phone and see all the places I've been today/yesterday, etc

Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

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Post by sameline »

bigthymer wrote: post #80
bxparks wrote: post #37

A lot of things on https://killedbygoogle.com/ . I used to use 30-40 Google products and services. I'm down to 3-4. Google Picasa: Everything local, so fast, so good. I'm never going to give my photos to G Photos. Google Hangouts: Can't keep track of all the Google chat apps. I use Signal now. Google G Suite Legacy: It was supposed to be free forever. They killed it, tried to make me pay. I migrated out of Google. Go…

I'm still upset that Google Maps no longer tracks my location. It was very useful to be able to go back and see how often and where I had gone. Is there another app where I can store this locally?

Apple Maps added a Visited Places (beta) feature recently.

Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

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Post by burnt-resistor »

bdangubic wrote: post #76
BirAdam wrote: post #68

Google Wave. Edit: you asked why. I first saw it at SELF where Chris DiBona showed it to me and a close friend. It was awesome. Real time translation, integration of various types of messaging, tons of cool capabilities, and it was fully open source. What made it out of Google was a stripped down version of what I was shown, the market rejected it, and it was a sad day. Now, I am left with JIRA, Slack, and email. It…

wave was fucking amazing. buggy but amazing

Google sucked/s at executive function because they completely lack appreciation for proper R&D and long-term investment and also kill things people use and love.

Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

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Post by bxparks »

dheera wrote: post #85
bxparks wrote: post #37

A lot of things on https://killedbygoogle.com/ . I used to use 30-40 Google products and services. I'm down to 3-4. Google Picasa: Everything local, so fast, so good. I'm never going to give my photos to G Photos. Google Hangouts: Can't keep track of all the Google chat apps. I use Signal now. Google G Suite Legacy: It was supposed to be free forever. They killed it, tried to make me pay. I migrated out of Google. Go…

Isn't it "Google TV Streamer" now?

From what I can tell (since I am just finding out about this today), they stopped manufacturing the old Chromecast hardware, and at some point, will stop supporting the old devices. The old devices may stop working in the future, for example, because they sunset the servers. Like their thermostats. Who knows?

Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

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Post by burnt-resistor »

geor9e wrote: post #24
haunter wrote: post #9

Vine. It was already pretty big back in 2013 but Twitter had no idea what to do with it. TikTok actually launched just a few months before Vine was shut down and erased from the internet.

I will never forgive twitter for this catch and kill of a platform so full of life

Perhaps because they already had Periscope that no one used. It was a "buy competitor to kill it" play that didn't have the desired effect.

Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

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Post by socalgal2 »

bxparks wrote: post #37

A lot of things on https://killedbygoogle.com/ . I used to use 30-40 Google products and services. I'm down to 3-4. Google Picasa: Everything local, so fast, so good. I'm never going to give my photos to G Photos. Google Hangouts: Can't keep track of all the Google chat apps. I use Signal now. Google G Suite Legacy: It was supposed to be free forever. They killed it, tried to make me pay. I migrated out of Google. Go…

I used Picasa and loved it, until I realized I want all my photos available from all my devices at all times and so gave in to Google Photos (for access, not backup)

Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

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Post by JimDabell »

Apple’s scanning system for CSAM. The vast majority of the debate was dominated by how people imagined it worked, which was very different to how it actually worked.

It was an extremely interesting effort where you could tell a huge amount of thought and effort went into making it as privacy-preserving as possible. I’m not convinced it’s a great idea, but it was a substantial improvement over what is in widespread use today and I wanted there to be a reasonable debate on it instead of knee-jerk outrage. But congrats, I guess. All the cloud hosting systems scan what they want anyway, and the one that was actually designed with privacy in mind got screamed out of existence by people who didn’t care to learn the first thing about it.

Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

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Post by JoshTriplett »

gmuslera wrote: post #3

Maemo/Meego. I know there is Sailfish still around, but things would had been very different today if Nokia had put all its weight on it back then.

I loved my N900, and my N800 before that, and I would have loved to have seen successors. Ultimately, I ended up switching to Android because I was tired of things only available as apps. Since then, web technologies have gotten better, and it's become much more feasible to use almost exclusively websites.

Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

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Post by valorzard »

alexeldeib wrote: post #51
khaledh wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same with Vale: https://vale.dev

ouch, last “recent update” in 2023. Any idea what happened?

The author got hired by Modular, the AI startup founded by the creators of LLVM and Swift, and is now working on the new language Mojo. He’s been bringing a bunch of ideas from Vale to Mojo

Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

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Post by JoshTriplett »

JimDabell wrote: post #97

Apple’s scanning system for CSAM. The vast majority of the debate was dominated by how people imagined it worked, which was very different to how it actually worked. It was an extremely interesting effort where you could tell a huge amount of thought and effort went into making it as privacy-preserving as possible. I’m not convinced it’s a great idea, but it was a substantial improvement over what is in widespread us…

Good riddance to a system that would have provided precedent for client-side scanning for arbitrary other things, as well as likely false positives.

> I wanted there to be a reasonable debate on it

I'm reminded of a recent hit-piece about Chat Control, in which one of the proponent politicians was quoted as complaining about not having a debate. They didn't actually want a debate, they wanted to not get backlash. They would never have changed their minds, so there's no grounds for a debate.

We need to just keep making it clear the answer is "no", and hopefully strengthen that to "no, and perhaps the massive smoking crater that used to be your political career will serve as a warning to the next person who tries".

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