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Re: Ask HN: Has anybody built search on top of Anna's Archive?

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I wonder if you could implement it with only static hosting? We would need to split the index into a lot of smaller files that can be practically downloaded by browsers, maybe 20 MB each. The user types in a search query, the browser hashes the query and downloads the corresponding index file which contains only results for that hashed query. Then the browser sifts quickly through that file and gives you the result.…

I've done something similar with a static hosted site I'm working on. I opted to not reinvent the wheel, and just use WASM Sqlite in the browser. Sqlite already splits the database into fixed-size pages, so the driver using HTTP Range Requests can download only the required pages. Just have to make good indexes. I can even use Sqlite's full-text search capabilities!

I wonder if you could take this one step further and have opaque queries using homomorphic encryption on the index and then somehow extracting ranges around the document(s) you're interested in

Inspired by: "Show HN: Read Wikipedia privately using homomorphic encryption" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31668814

Re: Ask HN: Has anybody built search on top of Anna's Archive?

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post #28

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It would be incredible for LLMs. Searching it, using it as training data, etc. Would probably have to be done in Russia or some other country that doesn't respect international copyright though.

> or some other country that doesn't respect international copyright though. Like the US? OpenAI et al. don't give a shit.

> > or some other country that doesn't respect international copyright though.

> Like the US? OpenAI et al. don't give a shit.

OpenAI is not a country and therefore cannot make laws that don't respect international (or domestic) copyright. Also the US is a lot bigger than OpenAI and the big tech corps, and the law is very much on the side of copyright holders in the US.

Re: Ask HN: Has anybody built search on top of Anna's Archive?

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post #87

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You are asking a judge to consider that a book is ok to scrape because it's part of a much larger collection of books, perhaps the biggest and best collection, and therefore it's all OK because at scale means good.

Google already successfully argued in court that creating an online search index of books constitutes fair use: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authors_Guild,_Inc._v._Google,... .

The index isn't the full content. The OP search is about indexing the entire contents of the book for verbatim information retrieval.

Re: Ask HN: Has anybody built search on top of Anna's Archive?

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post #70
post #28

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It would be incredible for LLMs. Searching it, using it as training data, etc. Would probably have to be done in Russia or some other country that doesn't respect international copyright though.

> Would probably have to be done in Russia or some other country that doesn't respect international copyright though. Incredible, several years of major American AI companies showing that flaunting copyright only matters if it's college kids torrenting shows or enthusiasts archiving bootlegs on whatcd, but if it's big corpos doing it it's necessary for innovation. Yet some people still believe "it would have to be do…

> evil

In this case and context, a label like "evil" is a twisted interpretation.

Re: Ask HN: Has anybody built search on top of Anna's Archive?

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post #52

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I think one use would be to search for information directly from a book, rather than get a garbled/half-hallucinated version of it.

You don't need AI for that. I get the optimistic spirit of what you mean though.

Optimized information retrieval of complex text is AI.

Re: Ask HN: Has anybody built search on top of Anna's Archive?

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> or some other country that doesn't respect international copyright though. Like the US? OpenAI et al. don't give a shit.

> > or some other country that doesn't respect international copyright though. > Like the US? OpenAI et al. don't give a shit. OpenAI is not a country and therefore cannot make laws that don't respect international (or domestic) copyright. Also the US is a lot bigger than OpenAI and the big tech corps, and the law is very much on the side of copyright holders in the US.

> the law is very much on the side of copyright holders in the US.

Remind me again what the status of the case is with Meta/Facebook using pirated material to train their proprietary LLMs, and even seeding the data back to the community while downloading it?

Re: Ask HN: Has anybody built search on top of Anna's Archive?

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>I would assume pedo stuff is not really there Search for "lolicon"

I thought that was anime pictures...?

a subset of that, yes. but that label implies more than just that
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