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Ask HN: My CEO wants to go hard on AI. What do I do?

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Re: Ask HN: My CEO wants to go hard on AI. What do I do?

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Post by nyarlathotep_ »

TheNewsIsHere wrote: post #87
paulcole wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand what you mean by this. What specifically do you think is going to happen?

Not OP, but what typically happens: a large contraction. Investors are already contracting the over-investment in AI because it’s so hard to turn an ROI. Satya Nadella was recently on the record as saying he doesn’t think AI has proven a sustainable ROI yet, and that it needs to in order to sustain the current levels of investment. As a matter of cause and effect he is of course right. But no one can predict the time…

Seems we're starting to see it now:

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/wells-fargo-amazo...

Re: Ask HN: My CEO wants to go hard on AI. What do I do?

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Post by paulcole »

lioeters wrote: post #90
paulcole wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand what you mean by this. What specifically do you think is going to happen?

The hype bubble bursts: market experiences a trough of disappointment, then recovers a slope of enlightenment toward a realistic valuation of the new technology.

I don't understand what you mean by this. What specifically do you think is going to happen?

Re: Ask HN: My CEO wants to go hard on AI. What do I do?

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Post by thunderfork »

paulcole wrote: post #92
lioeters wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hype bubble bursts: market experiences a trough of disappointment, then recovers a slope of enlightenment toward a realistic valuation of the new technology.

I don't understand what you mean by this. What specifically do you think is going to happen?

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Re: Ask HN: My CEO wants to go hard on AI. What do I do?

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Post by senectus1 »

conartist6 wrote: post #40

I don't know what industry your company is in, but godspeed to your CEO on tanking your company with AI bullshit so that this stupid f**ing bubble pops and everyone can go back to thinking carefully using their brain instead of working on better serving Roko's Basilisk. Couldn't be more excited for this kind of short-sighted, AI-instead-of-people thinking to become shameful. How many people need to aim the gun at the…

>AI bullshit so that this stupid f*ing bubble pops and everyone can go back to thinking carefully

Its not going away. Its an elevator of low ability.

those with low skills or ability can make great use to elevate their skills and abilities.

Those with high skills and abilitities will not use it for much, but will notice that the skill gap between themselves and those with lower skills will get smaller, faster and with little effort. They're unlikely to match them, but it will level the playing field very quickly and with little effort exerted.

Re: Ask HN: My CEO wants to go hard on AI. What do I do?

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Post by onli »

scarface_74 wrote: post #84
TheNewsIsHere wrote: post #83

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Exactly. Tech has become a place where “funding” has become synonymous with “find a VC to fund you”. Most businesses don’t go that route, and plenty of tech ones don’t either. Savings, bank loans, lines of credit, private loans between people, local angel investors, and so on are how most businesses bootstrap. I co-own a technology business that has never taken outside money (well, we do have a credit card) and I’m n…

Can you name one tech company of note that hasn’t gone that route? BaseCamp and who else?

Microsoft is listed often as example. Dell as well. Apple startet without VCs, but added one a bit later.

Re: Ask HN: My CEO wants to go hard on AI. What do I do?

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Post by remarkEon »

This is possibly unrelated, I'm not sure, but a lot of the AI implementations I've been seeing are actually genuinely bad. Not bad in the sense that "the AI gets it wrong" or breaks something, it's more that it starts to inject a ton of ambiguity into decision-making for the business. Before you had people with deep domain knowledge, who had to synthesize that knowledge into an actual strategy. Now you have AIs summarizing documents, building charts and "KPIs" ... suddenly people actually understand things a lot less and their understanding of what makes the business run is obscured. It's not a dependency scenario, not yet anyway, where people can't make decisions without first consulting the AI or something.

Is this what AI is supposed to be? If it is, I don't want it.

Re: Ask HN: My CEO wants to go hard on AI. What do I do?

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Post by ironmagma »

paulcole wrote: post #74
bigtex wrote: post #73

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They will remain but when they have to charge enough profit to cover the cost of generating the responses, how many people will actually pay for it? Last time I saw 97% of OpenAI usage was free customers. No way to force the 3% to pay for their usage.

I mean I pay for several already. If I had to, I guess I'd pay $100/month for ChatGPT. But I also don't see how these things don't keep getting cheaper. What recent technology has gotten more expensive over time?

> What recent technology has gotten more expensive over time?

Cloud. And AI is not very different from the fundamentals of Cloud; there's vendor lock-in, meaning the vendors can raise prices at will, representing a liability to whoever tries to depend on them.

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