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Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

#91
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Maybe have a look at mobilizon : https://joinmobilizon.org/en/ Never had the opportunity to test it, but it's been developped by the fine folks of framasoft as an alternative to facebook for community/event organization. Might fit the bill for you.

Thanks for the link. This leads us to one proxy of the system's usability, namely the current base of installations: https://instances.joinmobilizon.org/instances

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

#92
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk has been promoting his views and demoting post that he doesn’t agree with.

Do you have proof of this? My feed is catered to how I like it, including posts that disagree with him.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2024/01/09/elon-mus...

https://theconversation.com/tech-billionaire-elon-musks-soci...

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

#93

Go low-tech and start printing a small local newspaper. Pay for it with ads from local businesses, and give it away for free at all those stores. Get your regional Chamber of Commerce to help set you up with connections and sales channels.

This sounds like a fun hobby.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

#94

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> because say the CEO of a company is friendly to the President. "Engaging in political censorship of their platform in favour of the President" is a little more than being "friendly". Free Speech in the US is dying. Ignore it at your own peril.

Dying? It isn't free speech if you can say what you like, but can only do it in a sound proofed room, alone.

Much in the same way you are allowed to criticize Putin in Russia.

So long as you do it in a sound proofed room.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

#95
>move our local communities off Facebook and onto our own platform. Is there a off-the-shelf solution

To get better answers, you need to flesh out all the features of Facebook that your communities are using. E.g. Shared event calendars? Groups? Private Messaging? Video hosting for users to upload vids of community events? Live feeds? Etc.

Look at the left side of navigation topics to help you enumerate and think about it: https://www.facebook.com/help/130979416980121/

Do you expect those ~50k to create new logins for the new platform? Or do they sign in with their existing "Facebook ID" to avoid hassle of new account creation? Do they need a phone app? If it's website only from the smartphone web browser, do you need web push for notifications? Facebook interaction with others has convenient lookup from the phones' contact listing. Web-only site doesn't have straightforward access to smartphone's address book (without PhoneGap). Etc.

If your communities are using a lot of those social networking features, it means trying to use Mastodon as a substitute for Facebook is going to be a very incomplete solution.

Of course, alternative solutions are not going to fully match Facebook but you still need to think of the threshold for a minimum viable feature set so your 50k users won't reject it.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

#96
post #38

> I live in a more rural community (moved from a big city). We have 5-6 small (~50k people) towns, all well connected. Everything happens on Facebook. I would like to move to a different platforms. Plus points for self-hosted, federated. Do YOU want to move off of Facebook for some reason, or do people want to move off of Facebook for some reason. MOST people in the US, especially in a rural are are not going to quit…

You're correct, but this is quite a boring response. If no one tried to make the world a better place, the world would never get better. It is an uphill battle, but I wish the OP luck all the same.

Facebook is where his community is, and it's good enough for them. Why would anyone move? What possible hope does he have of overcoming the network effect and convincing people to move to something they don't know? (And is most likely - for their use case - a worse experience)

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

#97

One successful version of what you're asking about seems to be the Vermont based Front Porch Forum. They have gotten some press in the last year and there was this thread about them on hackernews a while back : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41208506 Whether they'd be receptive to share their secret sauce and let a thousand Front Porches bloom is another question though, guess you could ask them! :)

I've wondered how FPF has managed to pull off such an achievement. Perhaps FPF became the local standard, reaching a self-sustaining mass of users before the Facebook and Nextdoor marketing machines saturated user attention elsewhere in the country?

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

#98
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're correct, but this is quite a boring response. If no one tried to make the world a better place, the world would never get better. It is an uphill battle, but I wish the OP luck all the same.

Facebook is where his community is, and it's good enough for them. Why would anyone move? What possible hope does he have of overcoming the network effect and convincing people to move to something they don't know? (And is most likely - for their use case - a worse experience)

Everyone agrees this is an uphill battle. What I'm saying is that's a boring reason not to do something you believe in.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

#99

Go low-tech and start printing a small local newspaper. Pay for it with ads from local businesses, and give it away for free at all those stores. Get your regional Chamber of Commerce to help set you up with connections and sales channels.

local newspaper with an online version. You can then use the online version to try to use to hook the people into some alternative online platform for the community (a mailing list, a forum, something more advanced)

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

#100
post #38

> I live in a more rural community (moved from a big city). We have 5-6 small (~50k people) towns, all well connected. Everything happens on Facebook. I would like to move to a different platforms. Plus points for self-hosted, federated. Do YOU want to move off of Facebook for some reason, or do people want to move off of Facebook for some reason. MOST people in the US, especially in a rural are are not going to quit…

You're correct, but this is quite a boring response. If no one tried to make the world a better place, the world would never get better. It is an uphill battle, but I wish the OP luck all the same.

> If no one tried to make the world a better place, the world would never get better.

This is kind of a cost-benefit issue though. The benefits of having a local community outweigh the negatives of the platform having its own issues.

If your issues on the platform cause you to ditch it, which ruins your community, than what have you actually done?

I believe when it comes to anything that is not-for-profit, that the path of least resistance the only path. Therefore moving off of Facebook is simply not a consideration.

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