Ask HN: Good books on philosophy of engineering?
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Re: Ask HN: Good books on philosophy of engineering?
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I've never understood what engineers find in this book. It looks like a shallow kitchen philosophy of a guy next door to me. What you think is so good about this book for engineers, in a nutshell?
Did you read the whole book yourself or just skim it? (asking sincerely)
Re: Ask HN: Good books on philosophy of engineering?
#93The Design Of Everyday Things by Don Norman might be something of interest https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/840
Seconding this. It's an important book for all kinds of design I would also recommend "Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship" by Robert C. Martin. It focuses on crafting higher quality code, which is the property of it not only running well, but being easy to understand and to work on
Re: Ask HN: Good books on philosophy of engineering?
#94Re: Ask HN: Good books on philosophy of engineering?
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've never understood what engineers find in this book. It looks like a shallow kitchen philosophy of a guy next door to me. What you think is so good about this book for engineers, in a nutshell?
The core thing is exploring just exactly what is subjective and what is objective, and whether quality is subjective or objective. Pirsig came up with an answer, and then goes on to talk about excellence (arete). Thinking back, this discourse seems like it was deliberately embedded in a kind of every day, guy-next-door narrative in order to touch on lived experience of "quality". Although Pirsig didn't explore it, qu…
Of course in the context of "books useful for engineers".
If you just enjoy someone's couch philosophy - i can totally understand that and agree that the book may be great.
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There are several ways to approach the Tao Te Ching, including the mystical, but I think that there's a great book that explains the underlying approach the Chinese have, called, Treatise on Efficacy. Essentially, in Chinese philosophy, any given situation has a propensity (water tends to run downhill). It is therefore more effective to work with that propensity, than it is to work heroically against that propensity.…
> Essentially, in Chinese philosophy, any given situation has a propensity (water tends to run downhill). It is therefore more effective to work with that propensity, than it is to work heroically against that propensity. Interesting, this is similar to the Hindu/Indic idea of dharma (e.g. the dharma of water is to flow) and the idea of working with/towards dharma (both of oneself and the world generally). (Dharma re…
Re: Ask HN: Good books on philosophy of engineering?
#97You did say philosophy of engineering, right? Look no further than “The Specialist” by Charles Sale “YOU'VE heard a lot of pratin' and prattlin' about this bein' the age of specialization. I'm a carpenter by trade. At one time I could of built a house, barn, church, or chicken coop. But I seen the need of a specialist in my line, so I studied her. I got her, she's mine. Gentlemen, you are face to face with the champi…
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#98https://www.asme.org/publications-submissions/books/find-boo...
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#100You did say philosophy of engineering, right? Look no further than “The Specialist” by Charles Sale “YOU'VE heard a lot of pratin' and prattlin' about this bein' the age of specialization. I'm a carpenter by trade. At one time I could of built a house, barn, church, or chicken coop. But I seen the need of a specialist in my line, so I studied her. I got her, she's mine. Gentlemen, you are face to face with the champi…