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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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Post by k_roy »

paxys wrote: post #81

Plenty of large companies are using them (I'm talking Google/FB/Microsoft and the like). You may not have heard of it because they run these systems in-house vs using a commercial service. My company switched to 100% remote dev envs a couple years ago. When you cut a branch it spins up a VM and you can connect to it from VS Code (native or browser based) or just plain SSH. It works great. The lag is not noticeable at…

Curious what you do for the people on less-than-good internet connections? Or is everybody just onsite with a business-class SLA?

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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Post by moandcompany »

zemnmez wrote: post #90
carlio wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're talking about spinning up a temporary environment running the code and connecting via a local IDE to inspect it, whereas OP is talking about hosting the IDE remotely.

No, Google actually runs a remote web IDE called Cider. The latest version is derived from VSCode.

At Google, people can use "Cider" which is a web browser based IDE, and they can use a "Cloudtop" which is a desktop virtual machine provisioned via Google's cloud infrastructure, as alternatives to a dedicate physical workstation.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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Post by roland35 »

brody_hamer wrote: post #75
jlmorton wrote: post #19

For Jetbrains users: Step 1. Create an Oracle Cloud account Step 2. Create an Ampere 6 core, 32gb memory instance for like $5/mo Step 3. Use Jetbrains Gateway to run your IDE as a thin client, executing on that host. You get a pretty darn beefy ARM64 VM instance from OCI for extremely cheap. You can get these in a region near you, with low latency. And Jetbrains Gateway works pretty great. On the plus side, this is a…

Do you mean $50/month? Or maybe $5/day? I’m reading: > Ampere A1 compute… with cores billed at $0.01 per OCPU-hour and memory billed at $0.0015 per GB-hour in all regions. So for 6 cores and 32gb memory I’m calculating $78.84 per month. I’d love to get 32gb of ram for $5/month.. but it sounds too good to be true.

Looks like 4 cores and 24 GB fit inside the free tier: https://www.oracle.com/cloud/free/

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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Post by HDThoreaun »

zo1 wrote: post #48
navanchauhan wrote: post #3

Most of the CS classes at my university have moved on to an online Jupyter environment with VS Code preinstalled. It lets students spawn an environment with all the required software for their class preinstalled. E.g. For Computer System it spawns an environment with GDB pre-installed, while for Intro to AI it has PyTorch/Python3 pre-installed

Having more grads coming out of university unprepared and expecting even more handholding (this time in the form of devcontainers in the cloud preconfigured and "ready", etc) really does not bode well for the health of our industry long term.

Yes but seems like most companies are moving to this remote dev container environment that you ssh into. Obviously the google skills are still important but there are plenty of other, more interesting, problems you can use to practice that.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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Post by gravypod »

fswd wrote: post #18

I rent server rack space at a datacenter where I have a beefy workstation to do all my work. I use VS Code Remote and SSH port forwarding. The workstation has fast 2TB NVMe and 64gb of ram, 16 cores and a RTX GPU. It's actually cheaper and faster than our production cloud server. I tried Github Codespaces and thought it was cool but wasn't nearly as fast as my remote workstation.

How do you find datacenters which will let you colocate hardware? How much hardware do you have? What was the cost?

I'm really interested in this kind of thing.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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Post by conductr »

fswd wrote: post #18

I rent server rack space at a datacenter where I have a beefy workstation to do all my work. I use VS Code Remote and SSH port forwarding. The workstation has fast 2TB NVMe and 64gb of ram, 16 cores and a RTX GPU. It's actually cheaper and faster than our production cloud server. I tried Github Codespaces and thought it was cool but wasn't nearly as fast as my remote workstation.

Almost the same for me. The data center is a couple miles from my home and my home has fiber. It’s low latency, I almost never notice a difference from my device. Maybe if I used it for really large files but that’s not my thing. It’s nice keeping my local device crud free and low demand.

Edit to add; cost me about $70/month depending on a few variables on collocation for a 4U. My same apps on AWS would cost 10x more. So that’s plenty of budget for my hardware that I usually get a year or two out of; doing minor repairs/upgrades myself.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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Post by roland35 »

I have a somewhat remote setup - I use a server which sits in my basement. It is helpful since running some things is just easier on a x86 Linux machine vs a M2 MacBook!

Vs code works great but I would really prefer to find a way to get neovim working with less lag. Mosh support is improving but still isn't fast enough not to be annoying!

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

omgmajk wrote: post #50

I don't really see the appeal. We don't even use the same dev environments at work, some use vscode, others use pycharm or codeblocks or whatever. We have code locally, on github, on gitlab and in other places. Also I can't really say that I've heard anyone outside of this thread who is excited about this at all. I see people here have different ideas but personally I've never heard of it from anyone I work with or k…

To me it feels like one of things if executed really well would be amazing, but the first thing that comes to mind when I unwrap it is all of the things that could make it a bad experience.

I can also concur that I work in an area a that is doing somewhat bleeding edge infra work (probably second stage adopters) and none of my colleagues or myself is actively seeking out this technology. We don’t really seem to have the problems it purports to solve in a major way at this time.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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Post by orsenthil »

roland35 wrote: post #93
brody_hamer wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean $50/month? Or maybe $5/day? I’m reading: > Ampere A1 compute… with cores billed at $0.01 per OCPU-hour and memory billed at $0.0015 per GB-hour in all regions. So for 6 cores and 32gb memory I’m calculating $78.84 per month. I’d love to get 32gb of ram for $5/month.. but it sounds too good to be true.

Looks like 4 cores and 24 GB fit inside the free tier: https://www.oracle.com/cloud/free/

It is funny they call it "Always Free".
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