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Re: Ask HN: What is the least obnoxious way to ask for cookie permissions?

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post #10

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Yes, if you put the “reject all”, button behind a “customize cookie settings” click, you’re a bad, anti-social person.

How would you save the "reject all" selection without using a cookie for that user's session?

It's not PII so you can just use a cookie.

Re: Ask HN: What is the least obnoxious way to ask for cookie permissions?

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post #19

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Some of Germany's largest online newspapers, like Bild ( https://www.bild.de/ ) demand either that you subscribe to their online paper or consent to all cookies. As far as I see there is no way to reject the cookies.

Ruled illegal already for other websites: https://noyb.eu/de/pay-or-okay-tech-news-site-heisede-illega...

English link: https://noyb.eu/en/pay-or-okay-tech-news-site-heisede-illega...

Re: Ask HN: What is the least obnoxious way to ask for cookie permissions?

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post #69
post #65

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It's not illegal at all You're allowed to say, "we have cookies - you do not have to stay"

Per the GDPR, you are not allowed to condition access to the website on acceptance of tracking.

Yet lots of EU sites do it

As they should

Re: Ask HN: What is the least obnoxious way to ask for cookie permissions?

#94
post #4

The best thing one can do is not use cookies -> no need for a consent banner. If that's not an option, the next best thing is to have an overlay that is as honest as possible and most importantly provides not only an "Accept all", but also a "Reject all" button. Don't use dark patterns, basically. That is, use the same color, style and size for each of those buttons. My experience is that most users are so used to th…

Actually not true, the regulation (eprivacy directive /pecr in uk) applies to all trackers including cookies, pixels, scripts,etc. if you can do with only “strictly necessary” across those then youre right.

Also consider visitors are used to these prompts, without one they may wonder: does this site follow the law?

Re: Ask HN: What is the least obnoxious way to ask for cookie permissions?

#95

There should be a big "X"-shaped button for simply dismissing the banner, deferring the answer to a later time. After all, if someone is visiting your website for the first time, they likely don't know your site well enough to know whether they want to accept or reject.

Might as well press decline the , same behavior

Re: Ask HN: What is the least obnoxious way to ask for cookie permissions?

#96
post #8

Cookie permissions and EU advertising options should absolutely be built into the browser, it makes no sense for the user to have permissions on each site individually like this with a different system on each one. Then the user can centrally review what permissions they gave, revoke them etc. So no sites should have these kind of approval banners.

They used to be. Browsers used to give you pop up alerts whenever a website wanted to store a cookie.

Re: Ask HN: What is the least obnoxious way to ask for cookie permissions?

#97
post #4

The best thing one can do is not use cookies -> no need for a consent banner. If that's not an option, the next best thing is to have an overlay that is as honest as possible and most importantly provides not only an "Accept all", but also a "Reject all" button. Don't use dark patterns, basically. That is, use the same color, style and size for each of those buttons. My experience is that most users are so used to th…

Except this is not the question. Why is it so hard for people to understand cookies are absolutely needed even if you just want to calculate retention or number of unique visitors.

If you want to track me to calculate retention, you need my concent. Easy as that. You can't promise me you're only using my user ID for that single purpose. We've been taught through experience that if someone has data, it will be used.

Re: Ask HN: What is the least obnoxious way to ask for cookie permissions?

#98
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, if you put the “reject all”, button behind a “customize cookie settings” click, you’re a bad, anti-social person.

Also probably illegal. That part of the law is not yet enforced very much, but there have been a few rulings.

> Also probably illegal.

Pretty clearly so. It seems weird to me that so many companies put up a cookie banner in order to avoid breaking the law, and then break the law in order to make it less effective. I suppose the win here is that if the (fairly toothless) regulators notice you can say "oh we thought this was enough" and then tweak it. But in that case why not just have no banner at all, and wait until they notice in the first place?

Just as daft as the extra-US sites that choose to show no content to EU geolocated origins instead of complying with the law. Which is... also illegal under the letter of the law, so why not just ignore the law. Presumably you're probably out of the jurisdiction anyway if you're bothering to do this.

Re: Ask HN: What is the least obnoxious way to ask for cookie permissions?

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Also probably illegal. That part of the law is not yet enforced very much, but there have been a few rulings.

> Also probably illegal. Pretty clearly so. It seems weird to me that so many companies put up a cookie banner in order to avoid breaking the law, and then break the law in order to make it less effective. I suppose the win here is that if the (fairly toothless) regulators notice you can say "oh we thought this was enough" and then tweak it. But in that case why not just have no banner at all, and wait until they not…

> extra-US

extra-EU I mean.

Re: Ask HN: What is the least obnoxious way to ask for cookie permissions?

#100

There should be a big "X"-shaped button for simply dismissing the banner, deferring the answer to a later time. After all, if someone is visiting your website for the first time, they likely don't know your site well enough to know whether they want to accept or reject.

Might as well press decline the , same behavior

Having to make a decision on the spot induces analysis paralysis in me :)
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