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Re: Ask HN: IP cameras that don't require an app or internet?

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Post by silisili »

EvanAnderson wrote: post #52
bradfitz wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another recommendation for Axis here. I've used dozens of them for almost 20 years now and they've been rock solid, technically and support-wise. But they're expensive. They do have cheaper models nowadays, though. In addition to explosion-proof ones: https://www.axis.com/en-us/products/explosion-protected-came...

Fun story re: the term "explosion-proof": I was given a tour of an industrial facility where conditions required explosion-proof equipment. The tour guide made a point of calling out the explosion-proof motors in one of the rooms. One of the other tour group members asked the question "Why would it matter if these motors survived an explosion?" I visualized the facility exploding in a fiery blaze and a motor, fully i…

Interesting. I'd have made the same assumption. GPs link uses the term 'explosion protected', and is definitely talking about the former, being safe in an explosion.

Re: Ask HN: IP cameras that don't require an app or internet?

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Post by hello_computer »

k_roy wrote: post #65
hello_computer wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rather than play whack-a-mole with filters, it's simpler to put mystery-meat devices on a separate VLAN+subnet that doesn't route. Firewall will keep the camera from accessing the internet, but does nothing to protect other hosts on the LAN. The cloud thing can be disabled from their web UI or the HTTP API, but between all of the knock-offs out there (of any brand), and the eventual end of firmware updates, it's best…

This is doubly important now that devices are starting to use DNS over HTTPs

At the rate things are going, the only legal port on the internet is going to be 443/tcp. Use a different TCP port, get a visit from the cops. Send a UDP packet, black helicopters and unmarked vans are on their way.

Re: Ask HN: IP cameras that don't require an app or internet?

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Post by xorrop »

OP didn't mention, but is this purchase for personal or resale/client purposes? I ask because there are NDAA/FAR purchasing requirements that the client may be under. Axis and Geovision both have NDAA compliant equipment.

Dahua and Hikvision are cheap but they're like E.T. - they phone "home".

Re: Ask HN: IP cameras that don't require an app or internet?

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Post by strunz »

dboreham wrote: post #50
kova12 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

P1447-LE is sold for over $500 used. What is it that's inside of that camera, which makes it so pricey?!

The fact that someone will reply to your support email and fix bugs?

And not supply your video feed to the CCP.

Re: Ask HN: IP cameras that don't require an app or internet?

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Post by binkHN »

bejd wrote: post #60
kunwon1 wrote: post #6

I have worked professionally with access control and surveillance. I can give you two manufacturer recommendations: Axis and Geovision. Axis cameras are high end and expensive, but they will, in my experience, do anything an IP camera could reasonably be expected to do, and they will do it well. They are European in origin and are available from various retail outlets to ship this week. Geovision cameras are low end…

Can also recommend Axis. At work we've got a server with a couple hundred cameras connected and they're extremely reliable. Software is easy to use, regular firmware updates (even for older cameras), and in my few dealings with Axis support they've been great.

> ...regular firmware updates (even for older cameras)...

Such a rarity nowadays--great to hear.

Re: Ask HN: IP cameras that don't require an app or internet?

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Post by unwind »

kunwon1 wrote: post #6

I have worked professionally with access control and surveillance. I can give you two manufacturer recommendations: Axis and Geovision. Axis cameras are high end and expensive, but they will, in my experience, do anything an IP camera could reasonably be expected to do, and they will do it well. They are European in origin and are available from various retail outlets to ship this week. Geovision cameras are low end…

Classic nit pick triggered by at least some national tech pride: Axis Communications [1] is from Sweden. Founded in 1984, they are pretty cool.

Edit: added missing word.

[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_Communications

Re: Ask HN: IP cameras that don't require an app or internet?

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Post by idbehold »

EvanAnderson wrote: post #52
bradfitz wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another recommendation for Axis here. I've used dozens of them for almost 20 years now and they've been rock solid, technically and support-wise. But they're expensive. They do have cheaper models nowadays, though. In addition to explosion-proof ones: https://www.axis.com/en-us/products/explosion-protected-came...

Fun story re: the term "explosion-proof": I was given a tour of an industrial facility where conditions required explosion-proof equipment. The tour guide made a point of calling out the explosion-proof motors in one of the rooms. One of the other tour group members asked the question "Why would it matter if these motors survived an explosion?" I visualized the facility exploding in a fiery blaze and a motor, fully i…

> Explosion-proof means that it won't cause an explosion

Wait, what? The implication is that their other cameras regularly cause explosions?

Re: Ask HN: IP cameras that don't require an app or internet?

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Post by xony »

i have a camera that requires app, my wifi account , cloud connectivity etc .. possibility is that 1.they may watch us live 2.sell the data to thief , or a hacker would hack it and sell it to thief 3.spam our mails 4.push ads , suuckk our data , may run crypto/ads mining

Re: Ask HN: IP cameras that don't require an app or internet?

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Post by freedomben »

disposition2 wrote: post #87
fabioyy wrote: post #73

A little off topic, i don´t know your use case, but you can use an old phone as webcam, they will be better in quality than any IP camera. A little example using my old galaxy s11. ( its connected to a pc using usb, airplane mode, no internet ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CDE7PsLwzk

Be careful when doing this. If left unchecked this could very easily start a fire. I did this with an old Nexus 5 and it only took a couple of days before I had a spicy pillow. Although, this probably works well for a device with a removable battery and that can be powered by USB alone.

Yes, this is solid advice. If you are going to leave it plugged in all the time, check on the battery regularly to make sure it isn't swelling.
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