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Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

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Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

#91

We are trying to create value for key stakeholders. When does it end? It's always ending. And yet it is also always beginning anew each fortnight.

Anyone not experiencing the sublime joy of unification and oneness with the market is really missing out. The process of transcending material constraint by commodifying their labor so that it can rise to the platonic ideal of profit hasn't truly lived. Nothing else comes close.

That’s some wicked humor :)

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This is such a funny question. It's not a particularly uncommon one either, but I find it so peculiar. Who's "we" here? Are you saying "we're" the same, you and I? Are you using the royal "we"? Are you a group of people running this same account? But I suppose I do know the answer to that question, "we" is the group of people like you that is still fervently participating in the rat race. Live as you can, live as you…

Plural systems exist.

Oh, I like you. That is also an option :)

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“ Restlessness is that desire to be filled and fulfilled. We all have it. We try to ignore at times, but still it remains.”

Theologians have been discussing this forever. Why have consciousness and a will with this built in restlessness? What is this all for?

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone not experiencing the sublime joy of unification and oneness with the market is really missing out. The process of transcending material constraint by commodifying their labor so that it can rise to the platonic ideal of profit hasn't truly lived. Nothing else comes close.

Lol, I'm like 90% sure you're joking, but sometimes the stuff that shows up in HN comments is this depressing

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Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

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Joy. "Men are that they might have joy." (2 Nephi 2:24 or so, in the Book of Mormon). Money doesn't drive it, but is a tool only. I have much more at my web site (in profile), including how I know this for myself. We can have peace and joy in this life, and eternal life in the world to come, starting now, based on our choices.

Sources of joy including learning, and service to others, especially family. In my church we have made promises to do this and it brings the most satisfaction in life, as far as I can see.

This also provides tools to handle the hard things in life (which can become growing experiences, to become our best, now and later on).

(thoughtful comments appreciated with any downvotes)

(ps: one way to serve others is by trying out https://justserve.org if it is available in your area -- a free site linking volunteers with community groups that can use volunteers.)

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My answer was found by having kids. For me, one of the absolute best things about having kids was that it eliminated all doubt: I now had a 100% crystal clear main quest that trivially answers, "what should I be doing right now?" if I'm ever not sure. Everything else in life, especially my career, is just a side quest now. Why am I working? Before kids I foolishly thought it had something to do with being part of a t…

The value of family is one of those things that's a huge blind spot for "intellectual-types", but completely obvious to most normal people over the age of 25. It's too easy to think you're above it all, that your intelligence means you must have a higher calling, or that you're Not Like Other People. But it's not true. It takes humility to acknowledge that you're behind the curve in figuring this out, but better to l…

Hmm. I don't think I am above anything or that I have any sort of higher calling.

But I have 0 desire to start a family.

I just do what I like to do and have fun doing it and that all seems to work out pretty great for me.

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

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Excellent point.

Humanity has made all of our basic needs (shelter, food, water, land) inaccessible without lots of money. And, so we're forced into being slaves of govt and capitalism for most of our lives to earn a living. It's just something we have to accept. The material standard of living (as far shelter goes) has been dropping for the last 50 or even 200 years now, so people need to work harder and harder to reach basic needs.

There's no end to it until you've got more than enough investible assets to cover your future rent. and since there's no real such thing as land/house ownership, it makes that even harder.

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I think we should pursue "human flourishing." What that means for each individual will be very different. It could be enjoying time with family and friends, creating or appreciating art, being involved in sports, gardening, raising animals, discussing philosophy or theology, electronics, cooking, etc, etc. The point is to flourish in this precious life. On the societal level, I think promoting human flourishing means…

If I didn't have a purpose in life already, I might think of reaching for the stars -- literally. Make human society better (constitutional and principled behavior, honesty, Golden Rule, etc, but without restricting freedom, i.e., as founders of USA saw freedom), but then become multiplanetary, advance science etc etc. Like in Isaac Asimov's Foundation trilogy or such books. Or something along those lines.

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

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God I love this question. I ask the exact same thing at least twice a week. I use to have real depression over this issue. I have zero answers for you. Personally, I learned to truly be ok with the answer "we don't know yet, but we're working toward it together". If you can somehow get to that point, you'll feel a little ease and maybe even a bit more connection with the rest of humanity. I don't feel like most of hu…

All the practicing Catholics I know are doing this weekly :) Find an adoration chapel near by (almost everywhere in the world) for some quiet time to reflect would be my recommendation.
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