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Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

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Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

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It being necessary to use shibboleths/code words to authenticate to each other over video chat (eg, to ensure that the person you're speaking to is who they appear to be, not someone else using deepfake puppetry). Really this is an implicit biometric authentication mechanism, and biometrics are usernames, not passwords. (Though I'd love to be wrong about this one.)

Probably worth doing now - eg the ‘Mum I lost my phone, this is my new number’ scam which needs nothing more than SMS.

I've read about this scam and it seems interesting to me - is that a realistic thing that might happen if your relative lost a phone? Perhaps it's a market-specific issue, but I have had multiple phones lost/stolen/broken in my life, but I still have the same number I had since my first phone back in the previous millenium, and I somewhat expect that some kid's phone number will stay the same until they die unless they move overseas and get another phone number there (and probably still keep the old one as well). Don't you have number portability across phones and carriers?

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

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id.me - With the push to get people on id.me to pay federal taxes in the US, I can foresee this eventually being a hard requirement to do anything related to the federal government initially and then eventually required for all state government interactions. Then I foresee this data being "leaked" on purpose to be shared with organizations that should not have it and just like Equifax they will barely receive a wag o…

Each of these predictions you describe, save the first, are capitalism at work.

As far as I see, the alternatives are either some form of government intervention, or a world in which only the elite can afford to purchase personal privacy.

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

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It being necessary to use shibboleths/code words to authenticate to each other over video chat (eg, to ensure that the person you're speaking to is who they appear to be, not someone else using deepfake puppetry). Really this is an implicit biometric authentication mechanism, and biometrics are usernames, not passwords. (Though I'd love to be wrong about this one.)

Meh. If this were an issue people would have been doing it with IRC/Email 10-20 years ago.

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

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I think we are closest to the complete destruction of what it means to have your identity stolen. Deep fakes were the beginning and now they are reaching mainstream movie/tv use for final shots. Voice cloning exists, but has mostly only cloned celebrity voices.

LLM fine tuning on consumer hardware is not reasonable right now, but it will be soon. And cloud computing is expensive but will get you results.

I think we're going to see a problem with AI "impersonating" people. Sometimes it will be used for scams, other times porn, but the case that feels most dystopian is using it on Ex partners or dead people. Both situations have different motivations, but amount to essentially the same thing. Training AI on the likeness of someone in a way that violates their personal boundaries.

People have already become attached to AI chatbots and used things like Replika AI to become surrogate relationships. I think most people underestimate how likely it is for a human to make a unhealthy bond to AI despite knowing it's an AI. I feel like with other things, like deepfakes, you can at least fact check to some degree.

I don't know how to feel about the idea of someone making an AI of themselves intentionally in order to make money in some way. The issue of consent goes away, but that opens up a question of responsibility. Chat logs with past partners is unfortunately a rich source of training data. How far can revoking consent extend if someone is using information that was consensually and willingly given to them. How many people would actually respect those kinds of boundaries when in a very vulnerable and hurt state after a breakup. I don't like the answer that thought exercise leads me to.

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

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id.me - With the push to get people on id.me to pay federal taxes in the US, I can foresee this eventually being a hard requirement to do anything related to the federal government initially and then eventually required for all state government interactions. Then I foresee this data being "leaked" on purpose to be shared with organizations that should not have it and just like Equifax they will barely receive a wag o…

Each of these predictions you describe, save the first, are capitalism at work. As far as I see, the alternatives are either some form of government intervention, or a world in which only the elite can afford to purchase personal privacy.

Adding to this, capitalism via lobbyists may attempt to block government intervention.

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

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AI is here - we just haven't noticed it yet. An entire class of problems are fairly solvable with the current tech with good unit economics, the market is still figuring itself out. If you think AI is going to replace your job, it probably is. But that's only true if you consider your job to be the motions you go through day to day and not the problems you solve. We are about to have a seemingly infinite army of mid-…

How soon will this army get effectors? I don't need any mid-skill help in symbol manipulation; I could use it in meatspace.

The effectors will be human, the cheapest option by far.

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Acxiom says hello.

Thank you - that's truly horrifying. I put in a request to get my file from them, but based on their security questions they have my whole public profile. Whether they can map it to social media accounts and purchases isn't clear yet. Edit: They have pinky-sworn to email me my data some time in the next 45 days.

I'm not sure about the social media activity either but as a data broker they're selling the consumer activity. Anyone else who happens to have your social activity, phone, zip and email is free to buy it from them and link it together. Problem is you fork over all those identifiers for KYC whenever you sign up for something and buried in the T&C will be a clause allowing them to share your data for business activities.

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

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It might actually already exist, but imagine if on the other side of the internet they aggregate all of your usage information so that a tech can sit down at one console and see that "jimbo123" on Reddit is actually Bob Smith who lives on Sunnydale drive, owns a Subaru Outback, bought dogfood three times this month, and has been talking about the war a bit more this week on his other social media accounts. Anyone who…

I’m sure this exists in multiple places, not least Cheltenham, Fort Meade, Canberra and Beijing (hi guys!).

Hi, Andy!

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

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Cat cloning is now a thing. https://www.geminigenetics.com/cat-cloning/ So are kidney transplants for cats. https://www.vetmed.wisc.edu/dss/mcanulty/felinekidneytranspl... Someone's going to put these together, and we'll have The Island for cats. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Island_(2005_film)

does Larry Ellison not have a cat island already?

https://www.civilbeat.org/2015/08/welcome-to-lanai-larry-ell...

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

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What I see happening soon: The mainstreaming of a new religion. Its tenets are broadly: the worship of technology and "progress", the cyborgization of the population, the proliferation of AI on all spheres of life, and the ultimate creation of the successor of humanity. This is not new, it's been going on for at least 200 years, but finally the technology exists to do it in a decentralized, scalable fashion. Think of…

I find it difficult to believe that tech people would organize in large scale around a new religion, as tech and religion are opposites in how you see and approach the world. With religion, everything can be explained with god, but with tech we need to use the scientific approach that rejects god. But of course, it could just separate us into two camps: the "gods" who create and manage the tech, and all the others wh…

Playing Devil's advocate, I'd like to point out that being proficient with technology is not a guarantee of being guided by reason. Even actual scientists aren't safe from falling into religion.
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