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Re: Ask HN: How is it possible to be the CEO of 5 companies at the same time?

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Post by greenyoda »

dragonwriter wrote: post #85
jackmott42 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There has been this kind of rhetoric around Elon things a lot. "Wheres the reusuable booster?" "Where is the model 3?" "Haha the model 3 is in a tent". Meanwhile the model 3 and Y dominate world EV sales, and the reusable boosters have become a boring part of weekly life. I'm not sure I would interpret Elons aspirational predictions as lack of involvement. It isn't unusual to publicly push for the impossible in the h…

> Meanwhile the model 3 and Y dominate world EV sales, They are the top two models, but they don’t dominate the market: BYD sells more EVs (mix of PHEVs and BEVs) than Tesla, but makes mamy more models. Tesla’s models “dominate” the EV market no more than Apple’s have historically “dominated” the desktop PC market.

For those (like me) who had to look up "BYD":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Auto

> The company has mainly based its sales in Mainland China, but is undertaking rapid expansion into the global market, with sales hitting over 100,000 per month in March 2022, and is expecting to sell between 1.5 million to 2 million plug-in EVs in 2022, around 3 to 4 times the volume in 2021. In June 2022, BYD Auto announced that it had sold about 641,000 EVs in the first half of 2022, overtaking Tesla to become the largest EV manufacturer in the world.

Re: Ask HN: How is it possible to be the CEO of 5 companies at the same time?

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Post by eloff »

msbarnett wrote: post #88
eloff wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because successful people never make mistakes? I'm not sure what your point is.

The point is that "he did a phenomenal job early in his career" rather misses that his early career is more "incredibly mixed bag containing disastrous missteps" than universally "phenomenal".

That's missing the forest for the trees, don't you think?

Re: Ask HN: How is it possible to be the CEO of 5 companies at the same time?

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Post by eloff »

danaris wrote: post #89
eloff wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone downvoting me did worse in their career. It's easy to be a critic. But like him or hate him, you can't argue with the results that man achieved. None of us have done as much.

It's not about what he's "achieved". It's about what he started with, and the means he's used. Most of us could "achieve" a whole lot if we were born the heirs to a massive fortune, with all the connections that implies.

Yes, I'm sure his estranged relationship with his South African father gave him such an advantage in Canada and California. All those connections! That's a low brow dismissal of his achievements.

Re: Ask HN: How is it possible to be the CEO of 5 companies at the same time?

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Post by nextweek2 »

jackmott42 wrote: post #55
rchaud wrote: post #30

Musk is a figurehead at both Tesla and SpaceX. He is too far out of the salt mines (or too impatient) to reconcile his wildly optimistic release estimates with actual engineeering reality. Where is the Hyperloop? Where is the Cybertruck? Where's full self driving? Every single one of these is years behind the CEO's own formally stated launch dates. So who's really in charge? It's not at all surprising that he'd insta…

There has been this kind of rhetoric around Elon things a lot. "Wheres the reusuable booster?" "Where is the model 3?" "Haha the model 3 is in a tent". Meanwhile the model 3 and Y dominate world EV sales, and the reusable boosters have become a boring part of weekly life. I'm not sure I would interpret Elons aspirational predictions as lack of involvement. It isn't unusual to publicly push for the impossible in the h…

The question is where do Mr Musks claims become similar to Ms Holmes?

He promised a lot and the team delivered part of it.

People are making investments based on him saying that he’ll have mass production of a personal robot in a few years. If that robot can’t water the plants in my house, then his recent demo was a lie.

I’m not wanting to pull him down, but Tesla is over valued and a potential house of cards. Having more realistic targets means it’s easier to beat expectations.

Re: Ask HN: How is it possible to be the CEO of 5 companies at the same time?

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Post by msbarnett »

eloff wrote: post #92
msbarnett wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is that "he did a phenomenal job early in his career" rather misses that his early career is more "incredibly mixed bag containing disastrous missteps" than universally "phenomenal".

That's missing the forest for the trees, don't you think?

No, I don't think that at all. Clearly. The Windows mandate was a colossal, world-historic fuckup that I think is indicative of his impulsiveness and representative of his capacity for making very very poorly thought through, Company-destroying decisions.

Re: Ask HN: How is it possible to be the CEO of 5 companies at the same time?

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Post by 65934 »

Bubble_Pop_22 wrote: post #68

Me thinks Musk is stacking up companies the same way the stripper in "The big short" was stacking houses. In both cases there is tons of leverage involved. The stripper levered up using home equity to buy new apartments, whereas Musk is using political climate. The functional companies are relying on political climate as leverage. Tesla= Political will to do something about climate change SpaceX= Political will to do…

Bro this isn't reddit lmao, relax

Re: Ask HN: How is it possible to be the CEO of 5 companies at the same time?

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Post by morelisp »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #48
vadym909 wrote: post #34

It is strange how the main people running th sr companies are completely unknown and unrecognized. I don’t know if it is coincidental or by design. For most other big tech companies there is usually a lot of guessing by the media of who’s next to lead.

everyone knows who Bezos is; probably 95 out of 100 people would not be able to name the current CEO of Amazon. another example: everyone knows the Walmart family; I'd guess 99 out of 100 people would not be able to name the Walmart CEO.

> 95 out of 100 people would not be able to name the current CEO of Amazon.

I can confirm this; I mentioned him by name to three executives and half dozen middle managers / ICs in a meeting about AWS and nobody had a clue.

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