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Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by davnn »

tazjin wrote: post #9

I've been trying to wean myself off phones completely since the demise of the SE, but life in Moscow without a phone is basically impossible (taxis, deliveries, electric scooters, bikes etc. all become pretty much unavailable). As a compromise I've been using the Palm Phone[0] for a while now (before that the Unihertz Atom, which is quite the chonker, albeit with a small screen). It's the size of a credit card and ha…

„… Bluetooth is completely useless in large and densely populated cities.“

What problems do you experience in day to day life?

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by freefaler »

PostOnce wrote: post #50
doctor_eval wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know this was a joke, but... The walled city of Athens when Socrates lived measured about 1.5 km (0.93 mi) in diameter.¹ Moscow is among the world's largest cities; the city covers an area of 2,511 square kilometers.² Access to personal transport is an essential part of modern daily life, without which it is difficult to work, live, and even, sometimes, eat. ¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Athens ² https:…

And yet enormous Moscow somehow functioned before we invented iPhones less than 20 years ago...

It did function "somehow", but not as well as it functions now. Hailing a cab (or an unlicensed one) when it's cold or rains was a struggle. No food delivery. No bus notifications and maps routing. Heck, it worked somehow before the Metro was dug by Stalin in the 1930s, but not as well as now.

So you're correct if you don't mind the quality of life.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by slaw »

TwoFerMaggie wrote: post #48

I've been using one since 2016. The recent two years have been a bit tough because of the degraded battery. Swapped a new battery earlier this year, it was good for a while and now it's slow again and barely last a whole day. The last straw was the music player/spotify stuttering while I'm using Safari. I have made up my mind that I won't buy another iPhone due to their design choices in the past years (mainly, remov…

I replaced iPhone batteries in family and friends phones more than 20 times. It's only about $15 and 10-20 minutes of work. Some after market batteries don't last year even a year, some are good for 2 years.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by dublin »

freefaler wrote: post #92
PostOnce wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet enormous Moscow somehow functioned before we invented iPhones less than 20 years ago...

It did function "somehow", but not as well as it functions now. Hailing a cab (or an unlicensed one) when it's cold or rains was a struggle. No food delivery. No bus notifications and maps routing. Heck, it worked somehow before the Metro was dug by Stalin in the 1930s, but not as well as now. So you're correct if you don't mind the quality of life.

I really don't get the food delivery thing. It's expensive as hell, slow, and mostly delivers a bunch of highly processed food you'd be better off not eating anyway, unless you're really starving. I've got far better things to do with my money than pay too much for bad, cold food.

Even during the entire 2020 Covid lockdown craziness (which was quite properly never really taken seriously here in Texas - even Austin!), we ordered food delivered exactly twice. All other food was either bought at the grocery store and cooked at home, or from restaurants (I actually miss being able to walk into any restaurant that was open and be instantly seated and served!)

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by dublin »

TwoFerMaggie wrote: post #48

I've been using one since 2016. The recent two years have been a bit tough because of the degraded battery. Swapped a new battery earlier this year, it was good for a while and now it's slow again and barely last a whole day. The last straw was the music player/spotify stuttering while I'm using Safari. I have made up my mind that I won't buy another iPhone due to their design choices in the past years (mainly, remov…

I like small phones and still use a late 1st gen SE. When the battery died and the screen broke a little over a year ago, I spent $220 at the Apple store getting both replaced rather than upgrade - even ignoring the price of new phones, I didn't like any of the new phones (even the mini) as much as the old SE. (My wife has the 2nd Gen SE, which is the same size as the base 6-8.)

I'm coming to hate Apple more and more with each passing year. For one thing, I refuse to give iCloud my data, and iTunes, already one of the worst pieces of software in history, has declined into an unusable mass of fail. I would like to be able to play my own music on my next phone, something I've never been able to do with an iPhone, since iTunes insists on transcoding my entire music library and scrogging all my album covers if I let it touch my music. I will not live long enough to undo all the damage it did.

Also, I want an actual headphone jack, rather than having to spend another few hundred dollars on Bluetooth radios I'd rather not have in my ears.

If I have to live with a bigger phone, then I'm going to get something in return - I'm seriously thinking that I might be able to live with a Surface Duo - it is larger, but thin, powerful, and even has bezels(!) so touchscreen scrolling works properly. (The Samsung Z-fold is probably still too large and chunky, but interesting, if still lacking in the bezel department.)

Anyway, it appears that Apple no longer cares about those of us who only want phones that actually fit in a pocket, so I'm done with the bastards. Good riddance, but there are no good small phone options anymore, now that the manufacturers have decided to sell only phablets at $1000+ price points.

Maybe Purism or Pine will eventually not suck. Not holding my breath, though...

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by dublin »

rjzzleep wrote: post #28
hedwall wrote: post #7

I use the iPhone 13 mini, it's marginally bigger than the SE.

I really dislike the fact that it only has Face ID in the age of masks, but otherwise I too think it's a great device. I'm surprised how quite a few apps in that ecosystem don't support the small formfactor though(i.e. keyboard doesn't close and you can't press next in some apps) even though it's not like in android where there is a thousand formfactors to support.

Masks aren't the concern so much as privacy. (Who the hell has even worn a mask in the past year and a half? I literally haven't worn one since mid 2021 - I don't even know where our masks are...)

I'm really opposed to buying a phone with FaceID - give me a fingerprint sensor, please.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by skyyler »

dublin wrote: post #96
rjzzleep wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really dislike the fact that it only has Face ID in the age of masks, but otherwise I too think it's a great device. I'm surprised how quite a few apps in that ecosystem don't support the small formfactor though(i.e. keyboard doesn't close and you can't press next in some apps) even though it's not like in android where there is a thousand formfactors to support.

Masks aren't the concern so much as privacy. (Who the hell has even worn a mask in the past year and a half? I literally haven't worn one since mid 2021 - I don't even know where our masks are...) I'm really opposed to buying a phone with FaceID - give me a fingerprint sensor, please.

>Who the hell has even worn a mask in the past year and a half? I literally haven't worn one since mid 2021 - I don't even know where our masks are...

Around a third of the people I see at the grocery store in Santa Rosa, CA are wearing masks. A lot of people still don't want to spread germs, even though the pandemic is "over"

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by tkiolp4 »

Gud wrote: post #86
ThunderSizzle wrote: post #46

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Too many people, even here, praise MFA when they reveal how weak their passwords are. I've never had an auto generated password get broken into. Password databases should've been the solution everyone pushed, not 2FA. Also, it's really an attempt for these services to cut down on fakes and bots. Its easy to make new emails, but hard to get new numbers that aren't already black/brown listed.

What do you think is wrong with 2FA?

2FA is fine. Being forced to use a mobile phone for 2FA is wrong.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by j_crick »

hoistbypetard wrote: post #8
_trackno5 wrote: post #2

I ended up moving to an iPhone 12 mini. As much as I liked the original SE form factor, I really appreciated some things like bigger and better screen and face id. I use mine as an mp3 player connected to some speakers at home. If I were in your position I’d just get an iPhone 13 Mini since it’s the last iPhone with a small form factor. Another option is to look for smaller android devices, but i doubt anything will…

I've got the 2022 iPhone SE. It's small, still has a fingerprint reader, and works well.

Yup, such a nice thing. I kinda wish though that the screen was without this weird green tint. And also in my experience the screen scratches far too easily compared to even an old 8.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by greenie_beans »

zzzbra wrote: post #27
tazjin wrote: post #9

I've been trying to wean myself off phones completely since the demise of the SE, but life in Moscow without a phone is basically impossible (taxis, deliveries, electric scooters, bikes etc. all become pretty much unavailable). As a compromise I've been using the Palm Phone[0] for a while now (before that the Unihertz Atom, which is quite the chonker, albeit with a small screen). It's the size of a credit card and ha…

> but life in Moscow without a phone is basically impossible (taxis, deliveries, electric scooters, bikes etc. all become pretty much unavailable). am I the only one who finds this horrifying

same. i'm really feeling it now after adopting a dumb phone.

recently had an idea: what if we installed small, public computers on city blocks, much in the same way that we did phone booths

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