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Ask HN: About to have a child, completely burnt out at my job, what do I do?

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Re: Ask HN: About to have a child, completely burnt out at my job, what do I do?

#92
The bad: This is what it means to be a man, a father. You are Atlas, and you will hold up your kid's world. No one will be on your side. Some will curse you. Even your kid will probably curse you when they're in their teens.

The good: You will have the power to make your kid's life a good one. You'll make a difference that no one else can make. Probably the decisive difference. Even if no one ever acknowledges it, you'll know it.

What to do: Think about what you have to do to keep reasonable income coming in. But also, think about what you can do to cut unnecessary expenses to the bone. No new cars. No getting hair done. No eating out. No vacations. Etc.

Within that framework, consider changing jobs. If you're living in an expensive city, leave. This is the golden era of remote work. If your current job makes you want to step in front of a train, find a new one. You can program, and there will always be someone willing to pay for that.

Your kid is everything. Start with that principle and work the problem. Godspeed.

Re: Ask HN: About to have a child, completely burnt out at my job, what do I do?

#94
You said: "I've been here since 2012, and I've never felt like I wasn't just about to be fired."

Imagine someone terrified of having a car accident every time they drove. "Have you ever been in an accident?" "No, never."

Or someone constantly worried about having left the oven on at home, so much so that they have to check it multiple before they leave. But they've never actually left it on.

This isn't an attack or a criticism, but sometimes it can be difficult to notice our own unhelpful patterns of thoughts, even though we'd notice them straightaway in others.

Re: Ask HN: About to have a child, completely burnt out at my job, what do I do?

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You said: "I've been here since 2012, and I've never felt like I wasn't just about to be fired." Imagine someone terrified of having a car accident every time they drove. "Have you ever been in an accident?" "No, never." Or someone constantly worried about having left the oven on at home, so much so that they have to check it multiple before they leave. But they've never actually left it on. This isn't an attack or a…

To go on from this, I'd suggest OP look for a therapist. This does not sound like a good attitude towards a job (that you have been successfully working at for 10 years), and becoming a parent will need you to make a lot of big changes. You can either go in blindly, or go in with someone to help you.

From the outside my wife and I had a pretty good childhood and were living successfully, but inside there were some deep traumas and we started to notice our first child exhibiting the same behaviours. Working with a therapist helped us to understand ourselves what was happening and learn how not repeat the same mistakes for our children that our parents made. My only regret is not doing it sooner.

Re: Ask HN: About to have a child, completely burnt out at my job, what do I do?

#96
The best thing about becoming a parent is that the "why"-questions about your life becomes absolutly irrelevant. You look at your newborn child and you know why you're doing this. It will unlock some power reserve in you you didn't know you have it. By the way congratulations.

Re: Ask HN: About to have a child, completely burnt out at my job, what do I do?

#97

You need parental leave. Not only for your mental health, but so you can support mama and baby. You should not be thinking about work AT ALL for the first 90 days of baby's life. Do whatever you can to get as much parental leave as you possibly can. Be there for baby and mama, and then -- only then, after baby is a few months old and your partner has healed a bit -- should you start worrying about your job and financ…

Isn't it inefficient for both mom & dad to take their parental leave at the same time? Wouldn't it be better to alternate like 8 months + 2/4 months so that atleast one person is available for basically a full year? Rather than both having to go back to work in 6 months.

Re: Ask HN: About to have a child, completely burnt out at my job, what do I do?

#98

Dude! Congrats! This is a magical time. Don't waste it by worrying. Stay at your job. Milk them for whatever paternity leave they will give you. And if you announce you are going on a long paternity leave, they are not going to fire you right before you leave. DO NOT SWITCH JOBS NOW. When the hospital sends you the bill - argue, argue, argue. They did stupid stuff to us like bill both my wife and the child for all th…

> When the hospital sends you the bill - argue, argue, argue.

As someone who comes from a country with single-payer healthcare, this sentence made me feel really sad. I knew some people around the world have to pay for hospital trips, but for some reason I never even considered that having a baby could cost the parents money.

Re: Ask HN: About to have a child, completely burnt out at my job, what do I do?

#99
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

May I email you a few resume questions too? I am in a pickle myself as a SE, and struggling to get out. (I won't email you without your permission, and if you are not interested, I will take no offense.)

Go ahead and happy to. No one else please. This is a business concept, polishing resumes and not a bad one, but it's not a business I am looking to be in.

Could you perhaps please list the courses you're referring to?

Re: Ask HN: About to have a child, completely burnt out at my job, what do I do?

#100
First off, congratulations! I know you're nervous about the whole ordeal but take a step back and breathe. You're bringing a brand new person into the world. Medical science understands the process so we'll these days but it still feels magical, doesn't it?

When you talk about being a dad in your post, it sounds like you're focused on your career but right now that's less important. Being a parent is your number one job. You have to clothe and feed and change and love this new person and they are going to look up to you as this amazing person who makes them feel comfortable, happy, and safe.

(Don't forget your partner here either. They're going to be recovering from giving birth and needing your presence and support.)

Take all the parental leave you're legally entitled to. And if the company offers more, take it!

I remember when my little bean was born and I'd spend like half an hour bottle feeding them in the kitchen bored off my butt. So I started responding to Stack Overflow questions other people were ignoring. And I would talk to my kid about it and why it was so important to help these people, and a little about the technology, and why I chose this career for myself. Babies don't understand any of that, but I was giving them my attention, I was making sounds they eventually learned to copy, and I think the best part is they got to see Mama excited about something.

We would spend hours cuddled up on the nursery floor with a pile of pillows, some Tangerine Dream albums, and stories about people I've met and things I've done.

Parental leave is a great opportunity to look at things through new eyes. I feel like I learned so much about being a manager by trying to explain it to a newborn. I hope you find it to be a positive experience as well.

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