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Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

#92
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There are three main possible future outcomes: 1. You get divorced and she keeps her money 2. As a couple, you never spend "her" money because it's "her" money. You die having spent none of the money 3. At some point in the future, you start spending "her" money (3) doesn't make sense given she's uncomfortable with it now. (2) also doesn't make much sense. So to me it seems like either she's acting irrationally or ex…

Unless there was a pre-nup and depending on the state they married in, option 1 could mean he gets half of their collective money anyway.

These people should see a councelor and talk about why they think it's important to keep it separate in the first place.

Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

#93
Apart from "Husband-Wife-relation" and "money shouldn't be in between a relationship" comments. Here is my take and what we do.

Have you tried a shared account? Every month, each deposit the same amount of money, lets say 4K each, towards house and common expenses anything you both/the family spend. All extra money carry forwards and utilize it for more payments towards the house loan, extra purchase for the home or a happy vacation trip. Always maintain a positive shared-account balance. Anytime the balance goes negative, split it equally and reload it.

P.S: My wife earns more than me. She spends on her dresses and bags with her money in the bank, I spend my money on keyboards & shoes.. We never found any issues with that..

Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

#95
Assuming OP is in the US, if they were to divorce, the income earned while married is generally split equally. So it's a bit odd to talk about "his money" and "her money" when married unless you're talking about assets from before the married that have been kept separate.

The best approach is to agree to a financial plan as a couple and then go from there. It might involve contributing a portion of each persons salary to a common pot. Or maybe just setting it aside individually for that purpose.

Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

#96
The way my wife and I do it is that I (who make more money) pay the majority of the bills and also handle a lot (but not all) of the long term savings. That leaves us with roughly equal disposable income. Sometimes she asks me for a little extra cash, rarely I ask her to help cover some large sudden expense. If I'm honest, I might spend a little more than she does but she says the same about herself so it's hard to know.

This is just how we organize things though. In reality no matter who's account it's in it's all our money. We face everything in life together and recognize a single interest, you can't enrich one of us without enriching us both. I refer to it as "sharing a life."

Together we make about as much as the OP (with nothing from his wife, so a lot less overall) but I would feel a lot poorer if the two of us were scrapping over who should pay what.

Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

#97
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You are married, whatever you are earning is marital property. Don't think of it as mine or hers, think of it as ours. (If you don't think it is really both of yours, talk to a divorce lawyer.) I've been married for forever. My wife finished school before I did and was making 4x what I was while I stayed in school. Afterwards we were making about the same for a bit and then I started getting raises and eventually she…

> (If you don't think it is really both of yours, talk to a divorce lawyer.)

Trouble making the mental adjustment, or possibly trouble with something else and she's pointing at money because it is easy to count.

I think if I suddenly came into some money from work, my wife wouldn't be telling people I "won the lottery," she would tell them I "shrewdly selected the right startup and was a critical piece of its success, isn't he so smart?"

However it sounds like if he did talk to a divorce lawyer he would win the divorce lottery so maybe he's been the shrewd one all along!

Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

#98
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We split the money because my now ex would have squandered it all otherwise

Exactly: partition => divorce. The arrow symbol '=>' is not causal; the partition did not cause the divorce, but where there was a partition, the divorce, in our experience, inevitably happened. I don't even want to elevate our lengthy relationship as something superior. Hardly anyone, including us, started out in their teens understanding what makes a good relationship. We probably stumbled into the single pot model…

We may be the exception, although it’s only been 13 years so far. Her and I didn’t ever combine our finances other than to open a joint savings account, so it’s never been a discussion of “we need to partition our finances”, it’s just never been a discussion of “we need to collapse our finances into a single pot”.

We do have a significant income disparity (on our taxes I believe it was about 3:1 for me this year), and navigate it mostly by just having an asymmetric set of financial responsibilities. We’re both responsible for our own individual expenses (e.g. cell phone bill, car insurance, credit card debt). She covers the mortgage for our modest house, I cover pretty much everything else (house and cabin insurance, property tax, car insurance for our shared POS construction-hauler van, natural gas, electricity, water/sewer, charitable donations, etc). I know what the mortgage costs, she probably doesn’t know exactly what most of the stuff I pay for costs but I’d be open with her if she was curious.

After all of the expenses are covered, we’re pretty much free to do what we want with what’s left over without consulting with the other person. We’re both also, I guess, sufficiently responsible that it’s a rare situation to run low. We’ve had a few unexpected expenses over the years that left the joint account in a bit of an ugly place but refilled it over the next few months and lived a little lean to make sure the emergency fund was there.

For COVID, her monthly income was reduced to almost zero. We’re in Canada, so she had CERB ($2k monthly). I topped up the joint account and told her she was welcome to take what she needed. She did transfer maybe $1k a few times to cover a few things, but mostly was self sufficient.

I dunno! Maybe it’s not a situation for everyone but it’s been super smooth. When we first started dating and moved in together, I was a grad student with a paltry scholarship, but our expenses were quite low as well. She got by and covered a few more things than I did, and now it’s going the opposite way and there’s no resentment or anything as far as I can tell. We’re both pretty good about sharing when we’re feeling something’s out of balance, so I suspect I’d know about it if she didn’t feel like I was pulling my weight.

Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

#99
> We had a hard time dealing with this at first, I was jealous and a little bitter, and she was worried that I was taking advantage of the situation.

Wait... Why was she worried that you were taking advantage of the situation? Taking advantage how specifically?

Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

#100
First, I'll share my experience.

My wife and I have one bank account, and 2 credit cards each under our name to ensure credit score activity happens. I was a secondary on her credit card for years assuming it was building my credit too, but turns out I wasn't building a credit score at all.

We have one bank account. When we started she was already out of university, and she was the primary income while I went to school, then I graduated and lucked into a high-paying software engineering career, and we had a kid, and she effectively stopped working, only taking small part time jobs.

We've always had one bank account. I was always the big spender, so any disagreements have been about my purchases, especially in my early career when I wasn't making much. Now I make so much money that it's never an issue.

We've been together for nearly 20 years. I know her habits, she knows mine, the only time we have discussions about finances is when one of us inevitably forgets to pay some outstanding bill.

> she was worried that I was taking advantage of the situation

This seems like a reasonable attitude at the beginning, maybe even the first couple years of your marriage. Perhaps this is too harsh, but IMO it's completely inappropriate to feel this way or have concerns like this 12 years in.

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