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Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

#91

[Throwaway account but a real answer nonetheless]. I will quit in a few days due to a combination of various factors. I found out, way too late in my professional life, that I was exploited by all the companies I worked for. My salary being too low, and the ridiculous number of days working from home are important factors but it's not limited to this. An old friend called me recently and offered me a job at his compa…

Kudos to you stepping out and up and getting what you’re worth.

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

#92

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Everything about working in an office sucks. Commuting sucks, paying for parking sucks, shared kitchens suck, open floor plans suck, office politics suck, being at the whim of people "just dropping by your desk to ask a quick question" sucks. Getting sick all the time when people don't stay home and they spread it around the office sucks. No seriously, I haven't had a cold or flu since the pandemic started, I love no…

I like commuting, I like smalltalk, I like dropping by people's desk to ask a quick question, and I don't mind it when people do the same to me. I like getting to know people, I like going out for lunch with coworkers, I like building relationships with people. I like knowing the identity of those I work with beyond a Slack pfp. I can understand the not getting sick part, but I guess I never really suffered from cold…

I guess it depends how much distraction you used to get. Personally there were times when people from multiple teams were queuing at my desk to speak with me. Same happens during remote but at least I can choose when to respond and prioritise them accordingly. Ironically I forgot this issue existed at the office until I went back for one day and it started happening again (at a lesser extend since less people were in). On that day I decided that going to the office at least for my current position is not viable. Thankfully the company is still happy allowing remote work.

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

#93

My current job was a "hybrid" model, practically everyone is 100% remote unless they specifically wanted to go to the office. Three people wanted to - they lived a 10 minute walk away from the office and didn't have space in their apartments. All jobs I apply from now on should be remote with a local option. Some things are just easier to do in-person, but mandating 3 days in the office per week is just overkill. Let…

> If you have some bigger all-hands events…

Just do something else instead. Have an internal podcast that I can listen to async while I mow my lawn or clean my house. There’s no need to tie up your entire workforce for a live stream. Deal with Q&A (which is usually terrible anyway) by having a Q&A episode where you answer the top 10 upvoted questions.

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

#94

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Everything about working in an office sucks. Commuting sucks, paying for parking sucks, shared kitchens suck, open floor plans suck, office politics suck, being at the whim of people "just dropping by your desk to ask a quick question" sucks. Getting sick all the time when people don't stay home and they spread it around the office sucks. No seriously, I haven't had a cold or flu since the pandemic started, I love no…

I like commuting, I like smalltalk, I like dropping by people's desk to ask a quick question, and I don't mind it when people do the same to me. I like getting to know people, I like going out for lunch with coworkers, I like building relationships with people. I like knowing the identity of those I work with beyond a Slack pfp. I can understand the not getting sick part, but I guess I never really suffered from cold…

Don’t you have friends? For my social needs I have family and friends… and since now I don’t have to commute and I am home at lunch I can engage more with them than before! Life is so much better since I started working from home!

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

#95

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I like commuting, I like smalltalk, I like dropping by people's desk to ask a quick question, and I don't mind it when people do the same to me. I like getting to know people, I like going out for lunch with coworkers, I like building relationships with people. I like knowing the identity of those I work with beyond a Slack pfp. I can understand the not getting sick part, but I guess I never really suffered from cold…

> I like commuting, I like smalltalk, I like dropping by people's desk to ask a quick question, and I don't mind it when people do the same to me. I like getting to know people, I like going out for lunch with coworkers, I like building relationships with people. I like knowing the identity of those I work with beyond a Slack pfp. You can not seriously suggest that people who can do (and have done the last 2 years) t…

What? I’m in the middle here but your suggestion is not practical. Your professional interests should be largely orthogonalizable from your personality traits like degree of extroversion. I’m a scientist. I like people. I don’t want to have to be a bartender because I like working with other people.

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

#96

Nah, I miss working with other humans. Spending every day in a closet typing by myself honestly sucks. That won't be true for everyone, some folks will have kids at home - but even those, I have to imagine will (a) get tired of the kids or (b) have their kids off at school and be in my situation. I've started biking to work (voluntarily) since there's a lot of flexibility, it's great to get some sunshine and fresh ai…

Move to a bigger place then! The beauty of wfh is that you can live wherever you want! I have a very nice home office… my wfh setup is by many orders of magnitude better than what the office used to offer: better desk (nice electric standing desk), better chair, better monitors, better headset/mic, a quiet space!

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

#97

I probably would if mine were actually taking a stance. It's been mixed messaging so I'm on the fence. I'm in a fairly odd situation, however. Prior to lockdown I was already WFH. Oddities are coming... After the lockdown started we went through at least two leadership changes. Now I'll [eventually] have to self report by 'filing a request' to make the WFH status official. It doesn't sound like it's something likely…

Amazon?

Nope, I'll never work for Bezos hah

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

#98
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So get fired for not commuting to work then.

Getting fired is not the same as being laid off. If they fire you for insubordination (which is what not reporting for mandatory office attendance would be) or bad performance, they don't have to pay you anything. If you're laid off, most companies would give you at least a few months of pay in compensation.

Not showing up to the office when required could be a fireable offense (not quite insubordination but along the same lines).

I knew a guy at Apple that was given 60 days to find a new job or move to LA or be terminated. He found a job in another team just as his 60 days was running out.

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

#99
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> People who refuse to work from the office, even a few days out of the week, look like total snowflakes to me. I think the flexibility is good, and hardline rules will not go over well, but likewise I think people who refuse to work in the office at all -- when they're local! -- are eventually going be terminated. This is the sort of toxic colleague people are choosing to avoid at the office.

For the record - I was the first person to raise my voice in 2020 and tell management people with elderly and immunocompromised family members or themselves with issues are going to need to work at home for some time. I was the first to call that schools were going to have to close for a short time (not a freaking year and a half, good God, California). I care deeply about people.

That being said, a bunch of Apple and Googlers who get freaking bused to work for free, with wifi, complaining that they now need to work from home permanently instead of the beautiful campuses they built look like "snowflakes", yes. Not everyone.

Flexibility is important. My own team has flexibility to make decisions which best help them, however there is none-the-less a reasonable expectation to come into the office once or twice a week. It helps with collaboration, and they're freaking 20 miles away at most.

The critical part of the pandemic is done, I can't believe that's the excuse. It's more convenience at this point. I'm not saying that out of a heavy hand, but that's the reality as I see it.

Face-to-face working is a privilege. Why are people treating it like it's a punishment?

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?

#100

Nah, I miss working with other humans. Spending every day in a closet typing by myself honestly sucks. That won't be true for everyone, some folks will have kids at home - but even those, I have to imagine will (a) get tired of the kids or (b) have their kids off at school and be in my situation. I've started biking to work (voluntarily) since there's a lot of flexibility, it's great to get some sunshine and fresh ai…

Move to a bigger place then! The beauty of wfh is that you can live wherever you want! I have a very nice home office… my wfh setup is by many orders of magnitude better than what the office used to offer: better desk (nice electric standing desk), better chair, better monitors, better headset/mic, a quiet space!

Moving to a bigger place won't put my coworkers into it lol
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