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Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

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Post by imaginaryNumb3r »

plaguepilled wrote: post #36

This is actually a big reason why I use Firefox despite the weaker security: the bookmark ergonomics are just that much better. When I'm browsing, I don't want links in the top bar to tempt me to context switch, so my bookmark bar is off and my left hand rests next to my keyboard. If I want to navigate to a site, I either type in the URL if I remember, or hit Ctrl+B to pull up my bookmarks. I put the bar on the right…

there's many other browsers which simply don't have their own engine. For my taste, Vivaldi is the best choice for power users.

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

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Post by imaginaryNumb3r »

m0guz wrote: post #90

I don't know how people think Firefox has feature-rich bookmark manager, probably never used a browser that cares about power-users. Firefox can't even open Bookmark manager in a new tab, whole bookmark feature hasn't improved in 15 years. Vivaldi has the best bookmark management in UX/UI. > i want to be able to quickly load common favourite news sites & blogs. Right click on a tab > Bookmark all tabs. Vivaldi create…

I second Vivaldi. The people I know who tried it never went back.

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

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Post by littlecranky67 »

mg wrote: post #28

I don't know about Chrome, but in Firefox: Chrome now hides the bookmark bar by default Not sure if it is the default, but my Firefox bookmark bar is always visible load common favorite news sites & blogs or load a window with all my productivity SaaS sites. Shift+Click on a bookmark folder does that pick up where i left off on a research rabbit hole Right-Click on one of the open tabs, click "select all tabs", right…

> Not sure if it is the default, but my Firefox bookmark bar is always visible

you can set it to show/hide, but also to "Only show on new tab" which I use. That way I don't lose screen space, but and CMD+T (Ctrl+T on non-mac) will show my most important bookmarks in the bar right away.

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

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Post by mamoriamohit »

You're almost right!

You're not alone. I am with you.

To add to your little annoyances, I'd add one as well – categorizing the bookmarks.

Even if I end up bookmarking a site, I find it hard to organize it nicely in a place that I can go to later on.

I'd love to put some hashtags on bookmarks to search for later.

Just me?

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

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Post by narag »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #79
narag wrote: post #41

You're not alone, I want even more: or load a window with all my productivity SaaS sites. I want to open a tab with a page that's an index consisting of the bookmarks of some folder in the bookmarks bar. That's obvious to me: when I'm researching some topic, I drag the interesting finds onto a folder in that bar. Once I have a list for consulting later, I would like that list to be presented as a list of links, much…

You can do mostly that in Firefox itself. Bringing up the bookmarks side pane (CMD+B on a mac). Right click on any folder -> "Open all bookmarks" will open the full folder. Creating folders and subfolders is as good as categorizing will get, so you could organize your bookmarks by month by creating folders per month. I also recommend using Firefox Containers (mostly for privacy and security reasons), and then you can…

Thank you, but that's not what I meant. I don't want to open all bookmarks. I want to list them in HTML, like the front page of this very site.

Actually that was how Firefox used to export bookmarks, as one HTML page with clickable links.

Edit: I've just checked and Firefox still can export the whole bookmarks collection. What I would love is the option to export just a folder, not the entire database.

Edit2: Now, if I just want to export a folder, I must export the whole thing, open the result in a text editor and paste the html in some of my "launcher pages".

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

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Post by hk__2 »

cma wrote: post #43
atoav wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why click on a bookmark if you can make your users google it?

And if the user is wanting to visit something like Ford.com, Google can charge Ford millions over time to be the first result, pitting them in a bidding war against Chevy for the top result (with tiny ad disclaimer) for a search for "Ford".

> And if the user is wanting to visit something like Ford.com, Google can charge Ford millions over time to be the first result, pitting them in a bidding war against Chevy for the top result (with tiny ad disclaimer) for a search for "Ford".

That’s not how it works. If you own the website Ford.com, Google won’t charge you millions to bid on the keyword "Ford". They _will_ do it if you are Chevy and are bidding on Ford.

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

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Post by fmajid »

lozenge wrote: post #61
adaml_623 wrote: post #23

I thought it was a commonly held thought that Google didn't want Chrome users using bookmarks because it directly competed with their search (and advertising).

Vertical screen space was very precious when Chrome came out. I remember their first feature over Firefox was moving tabs into the title bar and removing the menu bar, bookmark bar and bottom status bar, so saving about four bars of space for page contents. Since launch, they've reduced the vertical space of the tab bar/title bar, even as screens gained more pixels. Original design- https://www.google.com/googlebooks…

Vertical space is still at a premium because most laptops use the obnoxious 16:9 aspect ratio. That’s why I keep my tabs on the right in Vivaldi.

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

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Post by jbverschoor »

yborg wrote: post #58
jbverschoor wrote: post #42

Bookmarks don't work. What does work is saving a snaphot of the page, including content (and maybe the trail path). There is no way of 'archiving'. This is why I like pocket.. The rabbithole is a trap btw..

Firefox has several extensions that do exactly this and don't sell your data.

Too bad I really can't stand the UI / behavior

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

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Post by hk__2 »

yborg wrote: post #58
jbverschoor wrote: post #42

Bookmarks don't work. What does work is saving a snaphot of the page, including content (and maybe the trail path). There is no way of 'archiving'. This is why I like pocket.. The rabbithole is a trap btw..

Firefox has several extensions that do exactly this and don't sell your data.

> Firefox has several extensions that do exactly this and don't sell your data.

Pocket is owned by Mozilla.

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