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Re: Ask HN: How have you deGoogled your life?

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Post by x86x87 »

daneel_w wrote: post #33
cube00 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you could still login to the Registrars user account that owned the domain and that email address had been changed I suspect you should still be able to change the domain contact information via the self service console. Worst case you'd raise a ticket (how good is actual support!) and they would be able to change the domain contact information for you because you can already authenticate with the user account tha…

Maybe it's not the case for all TLDs and registrars, but for my .se domain and my specific registrar, changing any of the contact records required a confirmation sent to the e-mail address of the owner record . A logical safety measure to prevent theft.

Setup the gmail account to forward everything to your new address. Enable 2fa.

Re: Ask HN: How have you deGoogled your life?

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Post by paulcole »

> Your data is worth a lot

Ehhhh, not so sure about this.

• Your individual data is worth a lot of money in aggregate with the data of thousands/millions of other users, but it is difficult (impossible?) to exchange your individual data for money

• If you're talking philosophical/non-monetary "worth" then this varies from person to person. I value my data almost not at all.

Re: Ask HN: How have you deGoogled your life?

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Post by beej71 »

thrr0wawayy wrote: post #37
can16358p wrote: post #35

The only trace left from Google in my life is search. No, DDG is unfortunately nowhere near Google Search. The day I could replace that too, I'll try my best not to touch a Google product ever again.

I'm not saying it will fully replace google, but I find startpage.com to be much better than DDG, and I am leaning back on google search less and less

Seconded on Startpage. Bing refuses to index one of my sites for some reason, and it's a legit site. Makes me wonder what else they're ignoring. And poor DDG is using Bing results.

Startpage uses Google results.

Re: Ask HN: How have you deGoogled your life?

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Post by WithinReason »

ElectronBadger wrote: post #86

I don't use any of Google services or products. Fairphone 3+ with /e/OS Firefox + uBlock + uMatrix + NoScript Duckduckgo Tutanota (mail, calendar) and ecloud (mail, calendar, notes, tasks) Quad9 DNS SyncThing OpenStreetMap Magic Earth DeepL

+1 for DeepL, it's better than google translate

Re: Ask HN: How have you deGoogled your life?

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Post by daneel_w »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #79
daneel_w wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean no offense, but it looks like you're just providing guesswork and making up answers. > "I would highly suspect in a court of law that is not true." OK, but why, and in what court and in what legal system? > "You see, you have a contract with the registar for the domain." It's not the registrar that sells the domain. They are brokers between registrant and the entity owning the TLD, and registrars also have dom…

> I mean no offense, but it looks like you're just providing guesswork and making up answers. I mean, I literally went and changed the email on a domain to check if what you said was true. And validated that your claim was false. Secondly, contracts are a thing. I am not sure why you think that you would have a contract with the registar is something that is guess work or made up. I'm also confused as to why contract…

I'm just gonna sift through the filibustering and address what sticks out:

> "I mean, I literally went and changed the email on a domain to check if what you said was true. And validated that your claim was false."

You changed it on your domain, on your registrar. This doesn't the slightest invalidate the requirements and procedures that I am faced with when doing the same with my domain/TLD, on my registrar, abiding to domestic laws in my country.

> "Quite simply, the idea that forgetting to update an email in a domain record means someone else owns your domain is ignorant of the law and how thing things work."

It means what I said: the contact in the record is the legal owner of the domain, and also has rights to confirm a domain transfer, to alter the other contact records, and to change the NS records of the domain, no matter if that contact/e-mail is still me or someone else.

In the case of my TLD (.se) that contact is also the only one who's legally allowed to obtain an unredacted WHOIS from the registry. This information is not public for .se.

Re: Ask HN: How have you deGoogled your life?

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Post by LinuxBender »

detritus wrote: post #17
memorable wrote: post #8

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> I recommend hosting an e-mail server by yourself As someone who did this from about 2001 until three years ago, I strongly suggest most people don't bother with this route. GMail, Outlook, etc, all throw so many arbitrary and ever-changing security conditions to accept mail, it really isn't worth the hassle - or the lost clients from mails that don't reach their walled-garden end-points. I've used Fastmail for a fe…

I moved a few domains to fastmail and found that oddly AT&T ISP drops some emails from them on the floor. It is not a big deal given I don't know many people using AT&T's email but just thought I would add that for completeness sake.

Re: Ask HN: How have you deGoogled your life?

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Post by nathias »

sascha_sl wrote: post #69
nathias wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I watch mostly the same channels than on youtube, but yes if the platform is netural you will get everything, thats the point.

No, you really don't. You get an exaggeration of the margins of society (very often one specific direction) that is discriminated against elsewhere, unless you're also the biggest and most profitable platform. And that's YouTube. You saw the same effect with Gab. These spaces become polarized very fast based on who is already there and what the admins believe is adequate moderation. Odysee seems more right leaning. I…

There is nothing preventing anyone from using these protocols, if US lefties feel excluded because other opinions exist on the same front-end, they can make their own frontend and ban aynone they want, the good thing is that the protol itself isn't censorious.

I have a problem with federated platforms where you just get scalled down youtubes where every local sheriff gets to terrorize the people under his domain with his whims and if youtube's are driven by ad sales these are perhaps even worse because they're just ego driven.

Federative approach is terrible, it combines the downsides of decentralized and centralized solutions, it's far from neturality or increasing inclusion or escaping censorship.

Thank you for reading my blog.

Re: Ask HN: How have you deGoogled your life?

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Post by that_guy_iain »

daneel_w wrote: post #95
that_guy_iain wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I mean no offense, but it looks like you're just providing guesswork and making up answers. I mean, I literally went and changed the email on a domain to check if what you said was true. And validated that your claim was false. Secondly, contracts are a thing. I am not sure why you think that you would have a contract with the registar is something that is guess work or made up. I'm also confused as to why contract…

I'm just gonna sift through the filibustering and address what sticks out: > "I mean, I literally went and changed the email on a domain to check if what you said was true. And validated that your claim was false." You changed it on your domain, on your registrar. This doesn't the slightest invalidate the requirements and procedures that I am faced with when doing the same with my domain/TLD, on my registrar, abiding…

This keep this very on point. This is about whether or not losing access to a domain name means you lose ownership.

> abiding to domestic laws in my country.

Just to confirm, you country is Sweden, right? The Court of Justice of the European Union ruled that a domain name is property. All member states of the EU must implement and have laws that follow EU laws. This means that the Court Of Justice of the European Union's decision must be upheld in all EU countries of they face penalties. This is echod by the Swedish Supreme court's deicision that domains are property that can be seized in The Pirate Bay case. Sweden like every other country has written laws and case law on the ownership of property. This stuff was solved and settled so many years ago it's hard to even guess when.

So let's put a line under this. In the country of Sweden your domain name is property of you, by law. Ownership of property doesn't change hands because you registered an gmail address. Just like ownership of property doesn't change hands because you move into an address that someone was previously there. I'm sure Sweden has laws about mail. Just because it arrived at your address does not make it yours.

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