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Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

#91

Maybe you just got unlucky with your company. My startup CEO allows everyone to work remotely and we even got LTE USB sticks so that we can bring our laptop and work from nature. I'm currently surrounded by goats. The only mandatory event is an all-hands meeting once per week.

I don’t think it’s a stretch to say OP is the typical one while you’re the lucky one.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

#92
I am at a FAANG and feel exactly the same: constant meetings (20+ hours a week), insane bike shedding, code reviews cycles that take a huge amount of time, …

I don’t know what my next move will be, but I likely won’t last too long here.

I dream of running my own saas where I completely run the show by myself (support, development, marketing) and make decent middle class income from it but I don’t think I’m good enough.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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Learn how to work to live, instead of live to work. Automate as much as possible and use the free time in your own projects.

I don’t think this is the problem. As OP says they are working a 40hr+ week but the work can be done in much less. The work itself isn’t the issue, it’s the fluff around the work. Meetings, agile ceremonies, office politics/playing the game. There was a book on it, Bullshit jobs. My current situation is I’m in the easiest job I’ve had, fantastic package, working the slowest I’ve ever worked with no manager pressure,…

Sometimes this is related to team workflow. On my last job I landed at a team with easy and interesting work, but it had lots of meetings, 2-4 daily from 1/2hr up to 2hrs, with some high pitch voices that drilled my ears, and ofcourse the soul-sucking boredom and repetitive polite fights. The team was dissolved and I moved to other teams with sane workflows, then I realized I had some bad luck at the beginning, but if that happened again I'd try to get transfered.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

#94
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your argument is that some meetings are necessary to make decisions. That is not what the OP is tired of. He is tired of 'corporate bs'. Productive meetings are not 'corporate bs' so your comment is not relevant.

Not quite... my argument is that a lot of meetings are necessary to keep an organization ticking - decision making is just a part of it. If for anyone that feels like corporate bs (which is a perfectly valid standpoint!!!), well... these people aren't cut for a corporate life. What's the problem in that? If I don't like children I probably wouldn't try to become a kindergarten teacher, if I absolutely can't stand com…

> If for anyone that feels like corporate bs (which is a perfectly valid standpoint!!!), well... these people aren't cut for a corporate life.

If someone feels like a meeting is "corporate bs", that speaks to a failing of those hosting the meeting to properly communicate the intent of the meeting. If you are not able to effectively communicate with the people you work with, perhaps it is you who isn't cut out for corporate life? If you think you can treat a class of kindergarteners like it is a fourth year university course, teaching kindergarten likely isn't for you.

Peter principle applies, I suppose.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

#95

I am at a FAANG and feel exactly the same: constant meetings (20+ hours a week), insane bike shedding, code reviews cycles that take a huge amount of time, … I don’t know what my next move will be, but I likely won’t last too long here. I dream of running my own saas where I completely run the show by myself (support, development, marketing) and make decent middle class income from it but I don’t think I’m good enoug…

I think you can do it! As a good hedge, bring in a partner that has different traits that you click with so you can cover each other's weaknesses.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

#97
Your job isn't there to provide you with employment, it's there to meet the business needs and that is your role. If you are deemed to not be a functional part of the apparatus then you will quickly be terminated. The corporate structure is there is facilitate this and that means doing the corporate asks. Daft as they might seem. After all, you are just a cog in the machine.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

#98

Your job isn't there to provide you with employment, it's there to meet the business needs and that is your role. If you are deemed to not be a functional part of the apparatus then you will quickly be terminated. The corporate structure is there is facilitate this and that means doing the corporate asks. Daft as they might seem. After all, you are just a cog in the machine.

Capitalism, put in another words.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

#99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Techy folks with people skills are in high demand nowadays. Someone who can sell a project directly to the customer while also knowing exactly what is possible and in what timeframe without having to consult someone else is worth their weight in gold. We still have a few too many "hype-men" type salespeople who are in the Always Be Closing mindset without any sense of what's actually deliverable or even sensible.

I agree, although even devs with no people skills could even do better than those sales people or managers. They could hear customers pain points, clear goals on what to optimize for (revenue, clickthrough, etc) and then build some nice data science product within a reasonable timeframe. But you usually have these proxy people, who then have to do countless internal meetings to figure out what to actually do, imposin…

This pretty much!

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

#100

That's why I never got a data science job. They all seem too close to the business (much closer than typical web app development), and that's a bad thing in my book. My solution is to try to move "down the stack" and retrain to work with C++ and math-heavy jobs (computer vision, simulation etc.). From what I'm hearing, developers in those area have much less contact with the business side of company.

> From what I'm hearing, developers in those area have much less contact with the business side of company.

From what I’ve seen though, those domains don’t particularly have much interest in people without established careers in them already.

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