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Re: Ask HN: People who use different emails everywhere, who sold you to spammers?

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I mostly use one single address, but I can tell you exactly where all the spam comes from: idiots whose name is the same as mine. They give my address as if it belonged to them. Probably they created addresses like narag33@server and they believe that it's narag@server instead. So not only I receive all the spam from dubious sites that they suscribed to, but also their legitimate mail from lists and friends. My names…

I got my gmail account early and was able to get my first name at gmail.com.

My name is fairly popular in my part of the world and everyone who has it uses my email address as a throwaway since they actually authenticate using a phone number. I have matrimonials, visa applications, leave applications, uber accounts, SaaS subscriptions, porn subscriptions, random newsletters and what not. My gmail account is all but unusable now.

Re: Ask HN: People who use different emails everywhere, who sold you to spammers?

#95
I do this for most services for a number of years, and so far have actually failed to detect an email getting sold. It might also be that gmails spam filters and the like are tuned enough that I don't notice.

I'd love it if the tags were available in SSO as well, as the more stuff that logs in using SSO just reveals the main email. So I definitely got into some sales databases that way for $work email that had a constant flood of cold outreach.

The largest spam problem I have, is the email domain I use is a typo away from another company. So I sometimes get quotes, or emails destined for people at that company that don't hit the spam filters. One time, someone signed up for their online banking under my domain. Recently, I get all the service advisories for someone's Honda car.

Re: Ask HN: People who use different emails everywhere, who sold you to spammers?

#96
The worst offender in recent memory was Walt Disney World. Starting about nine months after a physical trip to WDW, my Disney hotel reservation email address received spam from the following Disney-related enterprises before I finally black-holed the address:

- Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment

- FX Networks

- shopDisney | Disney store

- ABC News

- Freeform

- National Geographic ("Now streaming on Disney+")

- Walt Disney Pictures

- Storyliving by Disney

You could argue that this wasn't a "sell out" since it was all Disney, but not a single one of those enterprises had much to do with a trip to Orlando. :-)

Re: Ask HN: People who use different emails everywhere, who sold you to spammers?

#97

Public libraries, who provided patron email addresses (supposedly collected to send overdue and renewal notices, etc.) to municipality "newsletter" spam lists. I assume they'd also happily hand over a list of all the books you've checked out and whether any of them were overdue.

I don't disagree that some library systems are pretty tech illiterate and might share email addresses without understanding the consequences.

However, I feel the need to assert my opinion that librarians are generally pretty fierce defenders of privacy in the specific context of lending/reading history, so your assumption does not ring true at all to me. Libraries/librarians have been consistent defenders of lending history privacy in the face of the Patriot Act[1][2] and I would be shocked to see a pattern of libraries anywhere in the US giving out lending history data in the context of anything but the most direct of legal requirements.

I was employed by a public library once upon a time and received specific training on when to share lending data ("never, and if asked, lock the computer and go get the Director, even if the person asking has a badge").

[1] https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/librarians-speak-out-fir... [2] https://sfpl.org/about-us/confidentiality-and-usa-patriot-ac...

Re: Ask HN: People who use different emails everywhere, who sold you to spammers?

#98

I'm not very pedantic about it but I do create a few ones. I don't do catchall as my domain has been on the Internet for a very long time and the catchall usually gets pretty badly spammed (I tried). For instance; - I have something like NetflixJio2021@familydomain.com, which is the free Netflix account that I got from my Jio Fiber connection. I gave that to the In-laws. - IndiaPassport2022@familydomain.com because I…

> Indian Passport Office won't allow more than 5 Passport applications from an account

Wow, what a strange limit! I wonder what their rationale is for having it?

Re: Ask HN: People who use different emails everywhere, who sold you to spammers?

#100
The most surprising was the local public transit system. Somehow the local Democratic Party office got the email address I used for signing up for my transit card. Over time, that email address got into the databases of lots of other left leaning groups, some fund raising, some pushing activism. My guess is that the transit system didn't actually sell the email address to the local Democrats but someone working for the agency passed it along. Having worked for many government agencies, my experience is that access control to PII is very loose.
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