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Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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I always wondered if one could start "tweeting" by dropping messages directly into the Bitcoin blockchain. Lots of people are very invested in it, and forking the blockchain is a lot of work and is unlikely to happen causally for the purpose of censorship.

Smoke Signal on Ethereum does this. Uncensorable messages.

https://foundrydao.com/smokesignal/

Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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Part of the genius of Twitter is the name and its brand. Twitter, tweet, tweeting, tweeted, etc. Even if Twitter had no goodwill, it's an excellent name for such a service. None of the options presented here have that. "Hey dude, did you see that mastodon post?" "I'll add you on GNU Social" "Fediverse is getting popular, wanna fediverse?" "Nmd'ed you!" "Totally Aaether that!" "Breaking News: The Prime Minister of Aus…

Speaking of GNU social, I have always thought that GNU was quite possibly the worst name to use for the project, simply because nobody knows how to pronounce it, and maybe if you do know how to pronounce it, someone else might pronounce it completely differently, so it you end up pronouncing it in two (or more!) ways until the person you're talking to knows what you're talking about. Is it 'new'? Or 'nyew'? I've also…

New? I have always pronounced it as Ginu. -_-

Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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Tilable interface, requires days to set it up, tweet with i "Hello World!" t, native vim keymap support, and hard to quit.

> tweet with i "Hello World!" t, native vim keymap support vim is not GNU, emacs is. That means it would actually be Hello World! , and the documentation would have a lengthy section on what the "Meta" key is and why not just call it "Alt".

Neither actually :-)

EMACS dates back to 1976 (David Moon & Guy Steele); vi also dates back to 1976 (Bill Joy).

GNU Project dates back "only" to 1983, with GNU Emacs soon after: 1984.

Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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I've used it and unfortunately nobody is on it. Not even for boring discussions. Imo your best bet nowadays is to find obscure discord servers. it has wide adoption and doesn't have mass appeal since each server casts its net only as wide as it's admins can reach.

Discord is neither decentralized nor censorship resistant. Discord (the company) has full control over what is allowed to be discussed on there.

it's at least decentralized and discord afaik doesn't have employed mods that police every discord made out there unlike reddit. also discord, you need to opt in to ANYTHING. twitter you kinda do as well, but they've sort of turned into a weird news site now.

Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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Discord is neither decentralized nor censorship resistant. Discord (the company) has full control over what is allowed to be discussed on there.

it's at least decentralized and discord afaik doesn't have employed mods that police every discord made out there unlike reddit. also discord, you need to opt in to ANYTHING. twitter you kinda do as well, but they've sort of turned into a weird news site now.

As the commenter you are replying to stated, Discord is not decentralized.

Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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Part of the genius of Twitter is the name and its brand. Twitter, tweet, tweeting, tweeted, etc. Even if Twitter had no goodwill, it's an excellent name for such a service. None of the options presented here have that. "Hey dude, did you see that mastodon post?" "I'll add you on GNU Social" "Fediverse is getting popular, wanna fediverse?" "Nmd'ed you!" "Totally Aaether that!" "Breaking News: The Prime Minister of Aus…

Ease of adoption is also being overlooked here. The average person doesn't want the hassle of self-hosting their own social media server. Not when they can join Twitter and be tweeting at the world within seconds without ever worrying about the technicals. That means the kind of people you'll be talking to on these platforms will most be techno-libertarian types. A plus for some, a strong negative for others.

You don't need to run your own Mastodon server. It's like email: you can run your own, but it's easier to join some of the numerous existing servers.

Also, I don't see how decentralized service can live without decentralization of control and ownership of nodes. Without the latter, you just get a multi-DC centralized service. So there's no alternative to a certain degree of self-hosting. Either you yield control to a central authority, or you care enough to maintain a node under your control.

OTOH self-hosting should be made as simple as possible for an average user. Much like running a Skype node, or a torrent node did not feel like hosting, and felt like just running an app. This is ruined by the need to run on mobile clients (can't be reasonable servers) and exacerbated by the widespread NATting of home networks, so your desktop can't easily be a server, too.

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