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Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by seabee »

phatbyte wrote: post #49
Derbasti wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I completely agree. I regularly use Ubuntu for programming. I used to use it as my sole OS. There was a time when I actually thought it looked kind of pretty--compared to Windows XP. Even today, the general theme is not too bad and there actually are some pretty nice applications out there. But the vast majority of applications, widgets etc. is unbearably ugly. List views not fitting in windows. Controls crammed toge…

Please, not the windows guidelines..pleaseeeee :X

What is wrong with the Windows guidelines?

Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by jasonkester »

numix wrote: post #77
jasonkester wrote: post #54

Coming from the Windows world, I've had nothing but frustration trying to manage the one Ubuntu box that I have running on EC2. The OS and desktop seems workable, but the tools available to interact with it are simply not there. An example: I VNC into the box, pull up a file in the editor, head back to my Windows machine, copy some text, head back to the Ubuntu box, hit "paste". Nothing happens. [skip forward past 4…

This isn't very helpful in your specific problem, but typically servers don't have graphical capabilities. So much so, that I was a little baffled when I read that you VNC'ed into one. Instead your local toolchain interacts with the remote. If I wanted to paste something in a file remotely, I'd open it in my local editor (which can ssh into remote machines). If I needed to transfer files back and forth, I'd use an FT…

Are you saying you've found a way to remotely browse the filesystem of your Ubuntu box from within windows (without resorting to FTP?). As in, something that ties into windows explorer and lets you deal with remote files as though they were local?

If so, please point me to it.

But that's sort of the point I'm trying to make. If the Ubuntu team wants to get Windows devs to try out their thing, they need to make stuff like this completely painless. To the point of building a "Windows Kit" that you simply install at your end and it hooks you up with a complete set of tools you need to interact with your remote server.

Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by gm »

mhansen wrote: post #18

Fix the 'Preferences'/'Administration' split in the gnome menu options. Most of the apps I find in there could be described as "Administrative Preferences", so I have no idea where to look for anything. Examples: Samba is in Administration, but Network Connections is in Preferences. Login screen is under Administration, and Startup Applications are under Preferences. The split between Administration and Preferences i…

Ditto on this. I feel you usually have to know where a setting is so you can know where a setting is. There might indeed be a criteria for the separation (ie, sudo vs non-sudo), but the fact that it is not readily apparent makes it (imo) a bad implementation.

Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by tejota »

bluedanieru wrote: post #23

How about increasing the width at the edge of a window where it allows you to resize it to something other than a single pixel? That's one of my biggest usability gripes, at least for something that seems so obvious and easy to fix. It's possible it's already been fixed (I use Lucid), in which case disregard. But I would upgrade for that alone.

I feel your pain. While they fix it I found that doing 'ALT+SPACE' and then pressing 'R' helped me a bit. But yeah, three keys for something that should be intuitive..

Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by seabee »

mahrain wrote: post #90

For people who are looking to switch to Mac OS X for it's looks and usability and are planning to buy Mac hardware just for the OS or stick with Windows, Ubuntu GNU/Linux would be an option on their current hardware. I use an AWN dock in Ubuntu and would love to have the time to research/hack my way to the Universal menu bar. It would be great if Ubuntu would have a standard (optional) Dock and Universal Menu Bar.

The universal menu bar approach was taken in Netbook Remix, whether it remains in desktop Unity will be interesting to see.

Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by daleharvey »

I recently made the move from Ubuntu to OSX, next time I buy a laptop I want to move back to Ubuntu, these things would help.

1. Make the install extremely smooth on mac hardware, including trackpad and hibernate support.

2. The recent UI touches are nice but still a long way to go, http://polishlinux.org/reviews/ipod_i_linux/ipod_in_nautilus... for example looks terrible, the osx finder is pretty bad but at least it looks nice.

3. This is out of your control, but when I move to linux it is akin to giving up designing, there is very little to no choice when it comes to 3rd party design apps.

I do still use Ubuntu via virtualbox regularly, you guys impressed me massively in the last few years and its amazing that ubuntu can even compete, let alone often outperform osx and windows in a lot of areas (even some ui issues, spaces on osx are terrible) So thanks for all the great work, hopefully I can get back to being a full time ubuntu user soon

Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by bartonfink »

slug wrote: post #88
shii wrote: post #36

Fix nm/nm-applet and I'll be beyond happy. I'm sick of it randomly dying whenever it wants to, having to do sudo pkill -9 nm-applet && sudo nm-applet ...a billion times a day. Including always when switching user accounts. It's really bizarre. I'm tempted to use wicd, but the icon for it and UI sucks balls compared to nm-applet. I used to have an alias set to to do most of the dirty work, but in the end it's only a f…

You can use "system connections" so your wifi doesn't go down when switching between users, it works for me (I have a mix of kubuntu and ubuntu machines). I find it strange that nm-applet crashes, did you submit a bug report?

My experience isn't that nm-applet crashes when you switch users, but the icon is no longer available. What that means is that, if user A is the first to sign in, nm-applet runs in their taskbar. If you then switch to user B without logging out, user B cannot switch networks or other settings without doing the kill/restart from the command line because the applet is not visible. For something like network settings on a desktop OS, this is nearly unacceptable and a royal pain in the ass.

Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by janoulle »

Currently, resizing windows in Ubuntu 10.10 is a royal pain. Depending on the application, there can be a little triangular 'thing' on the bottom right on which I can clearly point my cursor to and click to drag. However, many applications like firefox, chrome and some other installed apps don't have this 'triangle'. It makes for several wasted seconds of trying to get my cursor on the less-than-10px border in order to resize the way I want. I'd be very happy if you looked at this issue. Thanks and I'm actually looking forward to Unity. Just for the difference. :)

Perhap

Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

#100

Post by Kilimanjaro »

Trim the fat, like firefox did to mozilla, just the essentials. No openoffice, gimp, etc. Personally I just use it for coding and surfing. I know it is good for avg joe to have office and graphics tools, but then give us two versions, 'basic' and 'full' editions.
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