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Ask HN: Burned out. How can I make the most of a sabbatical leave?

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Re: Ask HN: Burned out. How can I make the most of a sabbatical leave?

#91
The fix depends on the cause. Did you burn out due to an oppressive/insatiable boss, or due to pressure you placed on yourself? The first is largely correctable by a better working environment. The second, unfortunately, requires deep introspection to figure out and address the true source.

Re: Ask HN: Burned out. How can I make the most of a sabbatical leave?

#92
There isn't a lot of love for Tim Ferris around HN. But you definitely should read "The four hour work week". It will give you some ideas of what to do, but more importantly, it will give you some ideas of how to efficiently do whatever it is that you want to do (time and money wise). Nothing he writes there is secret, and yet, it is unconventional on one hand and potentially extremely useful on the other.

Re: Ask HN: Burned out. How can I make the most of a sabbatical leave?

#93
I'm 27. I was burned out from June 2009 to January 2011. I made it out of that funk, and will never go back.

- Drop all timelines for recovery.

You didn't go into burnout overnight, so you're not coming out of it overnight. I saw the warning signs of my "batteries" getting low in early 2009, but I kept pressing on at full speed because I wanted to get ahead of the workload, and kept hoping that relief would come.

The relief didn't come, the workload increased, and my mind essentially shut down. I felt like a zombie some days -- a zombie too down to even chase after brains.

- Change your scenery.

I tried to cheat by doing all the little things and hoping for immediate results.

There were days I'd spend 8-10 hours biking through Manhattan and Brooklyn. But my mind would wander back to work ("I'm only X blocks from work, I wonder if building security will let me bring my bike through the lobby, so I can work on this bit of code that'd improve operations... wait, what the hell am I saying?")

I moved from one apartment to another. Granted, certain things about my original apartment (and neighborhood) were annoying me, but not as much as I thought they were. The move helped put me closer to where I wanted to be mentally, but there was still a long way to go.

I resigned from my job in June 2010, even though we both wanted to make it work. I was just too far into the abyss. I considered a sabbatical, but I wasn't sure that I'd be willing to return at the end (plus there was word that someone else had did the same -- left and didn't return, so I told myself that my 1-year request would probably be denied).

I spent the next two months throwing parties, going to parties, catching music acts, traveling to visit friends and family, and doing new and old things (photography, skydiving, sailing, etc).

I didn't set a travel itinerary or any schedule whatsoever -- I would just randomly look at air/bus/rail fares and weather forecasts, say "that seems reasonable", and book my ticket.

- Don't work during your recovery.

During my traveling downtime, I'd do some consulting work for a few clients. I enjoyed working with most of them, but out of the latter bunch, there was one over-demanding client that threw all of it into chaos.

In my burned out state, I desperately tried to make it work with this client ("if I just try harder..."), but no, it just reversed any progress I had made at this point. And affected the other clients I really liked.

- Don't beat yourself up.

I had all the same fears you currently have, and the biggest one was not having a plan. I felt like crap that I let myself deteriorate to this state, and that it was affecting people around me.

Eventually I made one plan that I'd stick to no matter what: to get better.

- Keep at it.

In September 2010, I legitimately started feeling better and began at a new job, but I continued to travel (weekends, 3 day weekends, holidays). Kept doing the things that made me happy, and my recovery kept progressing.

With this new job, I made a rule of not working at home -- only in the office, except for emergencies, until I could find a better balance. Sometimes, I felt like I was coming close to max capacity, so I'd ease off the throttle. Just being aware of what your limits are is a big win.

For a while I was starting to hate tech, and consider my options as a farm or construction worker (a la "Office Space"). But I'm back to twiddling knobs and some hacking -- I've probably written more code in the last two months than I have in the last year.

Here I am in February 2011, and I'm in the tail end of this thing. To put a number on it, I'm probably at 95% and as long as I keep at it, I'll be better than ever.

* The most important thing out of this is you have to take the time out to recover. You cannot try to multi-task/juggle/whatever because you will fall right back into the rut you were climbing out of. *

Hopefully this helps you all shake off some rust, and better yet, avoid the dark road I went down for almost two years.

Re: Ask HN: Burned out. How can I make the most of a sabbatical leave?

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Relax. After a month you'll be in a much better place to evaluate. You should focus solely in that month on doing little things you've been meaning to do. eg. Spending more time with friends / family. Going to see that exhibit you've been meaning to. Watching a movie you just haven't had time for. I took time and founded a startup but it wasn't until a week ago (9 months from the start that I really found the right n…

Doesn't SAD start going away once the sun starts coming back out again?

Not instantaneously, SAD really relates to circadian rythms and while the sun coming back out with fix it eventually you can fix it much faster by changing your habits and/or using the right lights.

Re: Ask HN: Burned out. How can I make the most of a sabbatical leave?

#95
At the moment, you're stuck in the burnout. It's draining your energy and enthusiasm, so you're not going to have the cool ideas to go off and do something better because your brain just isn't in the right place. If you can afford to get away, do so, try new possibilities and see what they bring to your mind. Getting out of the current self-fulfilling pit of despair sounds like it'll do you good.

The only caveat I'd say is that 'travel the world while you're free and single with no-one to tie you down might sound great, but.... In personality tests I tend to come out as an introvert but I'm fairly sure I'm actually an extrovert with poor social skills (and hey, self awareness is the first step to improvement...) - I know I need others around me and that that takes more time in a new environment than for some. For me, the 'travel the world, see the sights' advice would make me lonely and miserable in all these beautiful places I'd spent a fortune to see. Make the most of the opportunity to do things you wouldn't otherwise get a chance to, but be honest with yourself about what it takes to make you happy; don't press on regardless with the 'opportunity of a lifetime' if taking it will cause you greater pain elsewhere.

Re: Ask HN: Burned out. How can I make the most of a sabbatical leave?

#96
I often ran into these roadblocks around February of every year -- the same thing. Every February I would reflect, and suddenly realize I didn't like something (or everything) about my life and I'd make drastic changes.

* Lost ~80 pounds starting in February a few years back. 200->120. Hovering at a healthier weight, or so the wife says. * A few years back, I had a consistent contest on one of my projects (hostjury.com) where we'd give out ipods once a month. I hand-delivered one of them ~6,000+ miles away, by car. * The next year, I got a motorcycle. February. * The next year, I moved to Vanvouer. February. * The next year, I put ~80,000+ miles on my car. February through June. Anywhom.. * Found a wife, the next. She's put me under some new limits but we're probably moving to San Diego or *.in.cali. soon. //February, again. Uhaul is cheap ;)

There isn't anything inherently wrong with having sudden desires or your mind screaming at both your body and soul that it's in a rut. I too would highly recommend getting some exercise.

Try doing the grouse grind a few times a week. I used to live right up at the top of the mountain and would make my way up there each morning. It's a beautiful way to start the day, and is a fantastic starter workout. My time was about ~35 minutes once I got into the habit, but initially it was 1.5 hours -- so keep that in mind.

Start small. And hey, changes of scenery don't hurt either. Take a trip, wield your vacation pay. Change your personal life, your work life will follow suit.

In the meantime, eat a bit healthier & get some more exercise. Oh, and get a bicycle. Steed cycle is on the North Shore & that's where I bought mine. Put ~40miles a day on it in Vancouver and loved every minute of it.

Re: Ask HN: Burned out. How can I make the most of a sabbatical leave?

#97
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Have you considered that doing something scary might be a good thing?

Yes, but I've also considered that I might be a total wimp. Ugh.

Negative self-talk. Stop that. Thinking it reinforces it.

Re: Ask HN: Burned out. How can I make the most of a sabbatical leave?

#98

I'd refer you to a book which really helped me out - "Learned Optimism" by Martin Seligman, which will teach you a better way to interpret the events that happen to you, and a quote from Gabriel Garcia Marquez - "What matters in life is not what happens to you, but what you remember and how you remember it."

I took the quiz from that book -- boy that was depressing. It showed that I had a habit of explaining all good things as temporary, specific, and external, while bad things as permanent, pervasive, and personal. I'm well aware that this inconsistency defies logic. But that doesn't stop it from disrupting my life :(

I spent 6 months reading every book I could find on self-esteem, depression, etc. The Amazon Top 50 and then some. It was porn: I liked the idea of self-improvement, but lacked the motivation to do it, and after a while, reading the books just made me feel worse and sustained the depression.

Re: Ask HN: Burned out. How can I make the most of a sabbatical leave?

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Travel - Go somewhere that makes zero sense. It will make sense when you get there and when you leave. Athletics - Pick something that is so far out of your reach that it doesn't make sense why you would do it. For example, I just signed up for a double-marathon without having ever done a marathon first.

That's kind of scary. How would I know that I'm not setting myself up for failure by putting up an impossible goal like that?

You know what else is scary? Waking up in a country where you don't know if you're going to live or not that day. Count your blessings and see the world.

Re: Ask HN: Burned out. How can I make the most of a sabbatical leave?

#100
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Have you considered that doing something scary might be a good thing?

Yes, but I've also considered that I might be a total wimp. Ugh.

I recently bought this book and it might be of help since it is explaining exactly the causes (and treatment) of negative self-talk.

Not sure whether I can post recommendations here (I'm not affiliated), but since it was already recommended here at HN and just in case you want to check it out, it's called "The Now Habit: A Strategic Program for Overcoming Procrastination and Enjoying Guilt-Free Play" by Neil A. Fiore, and it seems to have helped a lot of people.

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