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Re: Ask HN: Best free compute and other resources for startups?

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Post by WhiteOwlLion »

ignaloidas wrote: post #88

I see a lot of linode recomendations here, but if you are looking at mostly European audience scaleway.net has very cheap VMs starting at 2€ per month, while not being that much slower than linode

online.net is the sister company of scaleway. scaleway has some ARM bare metal which is cheap but sometimes you see issues if you try to run software only optimized for x86.

kimsufi has 3.99 euro/mo baremetal server but very hard to get (have to keep trying).

hetzner cloud has cheap vps and also has auctions for servers. I got some i7 8core 16GB RAM & 1-4TB HDD for 22 euro/mo. They are closer to 30 euro/mo but likely your best bet for budget dedicated with better specs.

i have a few other dedicated servers (old Xeon) running off a bulgarian service provider

Re: Ask HN: Best free compute and other resources for startups?

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Post by simon_weber »

OJFord wrote: post #87
simon_weber wrote: post #54

I'm something of a free tier connoisseur, and recently built an entire project with 13 forever-free tiers. It was more of a personal challenge than a business decision, but it might be a good reference for what's out there: https://www.simonmweber.com/2018/07/09/running-kleroteria-fo... Some other services not mentioned there that I've used for free recently: - humio cloud for log aggregation - nodequery for server m…

> Was it worth it? Probably not, at least in the context of a side project. Reading pricing docs, planning Dynamo capacity, and setting up a local environment added days to what should have been a weekend project. That said, it was a fun challenge and the result is more robust than my usual vps setups. I disagree! Learning experience and posting about it aside, almost a year later it's still running at $0pcm? You, wh…

Yeah, I suppose it's true that I'm more willing to keep these projects around when they aren't costing me each month. It also makes it easier to toss ideas out and see what's worth actually investing in.

On other hand, I think I'm much lazier when it comes to marketing them since there's no urgency to make a profit.

Re: Ask HN: Best free compute and other resources for startups?

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Post by ElFitz »

013a wrote: post #71
ElFitz wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cleanly separate your logic from AWS dependencies using interfaces / protocols, summarily mock the required service by implementing said protocols (sparing you the pain of mocking the AWS services themselves), and voilà, you're running everything locally. It's easy. But if that's too much for you, the serverless framework has some nice plugins for all of it.

One of the smartest, easier things you can do early on during the development of a function is to treat the "core" of the function body as interface-agnostic. Write a function that just takes an object and returns an object, then write an Adapter function which accepts, say, a lambda event, calls your core handler, and returns whatever your lambda function needs (API Gateway response, etc). This enables you to, with…

The agnostic core part is pretty much what I do. Mocking the interfaces is just done to put together the different cores in integration tests and check that the system itself works, independently of what it relies upon.

Then, everything is once more tested using AWS. I stay away from replicating AWS services locally.

It greatly simplifies refactoring and overhauling the core itself, as well as trying out new approaches.

Re: Ask HN: Best free compute and other resources for startups?

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Post by sandis »

futureastronaut wrote: post #85
cpursley wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heroku is still significantly easier to use than Docker/K8s.

That depends on your mental model. The isolation and reproducibility of Docker is much easier for me than dealing with build pack nonsesne.

You can deploy Docker images to Heroku. https://devcenter.heroku.com/categories/deploying-with-docke...

Re: Ask HN: Best free compute and other resources for startups?

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Post by ElFitz »

eropple wrote: post #49
ElFitz wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cleanly separate your logic from AWS dependencies using interfaces / protocols, summarily mock the required service by implementing said protocols (sparing you the pain of mocking the AWS services themselves), and voilà, you're running everything locally. It's easy. But if that's too much for you, the serverless framework has some nice plugins for all of it.

I understand what one can do to create a leaky abstraction for local development. And it is leaky, and it can't be relied upon for correctness, and so while it makes "getting things done" possible, it makes getting things done correctly much more difficult than it needs to be. And local development when you've opted to use systems like Cognito are well beyond its scope, unless someone has something very clever that I…

I don't use Cognito, and all authentication / authorization takes place upstream, in API Gateway.

Our local tests' leaky abstractions don't care about anything happening upstream. They only care about testing our core "agnostic" logic.

Re: Ask HN: Best free compute and other resources for startups?

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Post by znpy »

pythonbase wrote: post #82
simon_weber wrote: post #54

I'm something of a free tier connoisseur, and recently built an entire project with 13 forever-free tiers. It was more of a personal challenge than a business decision, but it might be a good reference for what's out there: https://www.simonmweber.com/2018/07/09/running-kleroteria-fo... Some other services not mentioned there that I've used for free recently: - humio cloud for log aggregation - nodequery for server m…

Have heard horror stories about the cheap VPS offered at LowEndTalk and similar outfits. What's your average up time? and can you recommend any service provider?

I once got a super deal for a VPS that had little resources but 4 (FOUR!) public ipv4 for $12/year.

The company went bankrupt in less than two months. I didn't even bother to wonder why.

Re: Ask HN: Best free compute and other resources for startups?

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Post by jonas_kgomo »

Quite important question. Indiehackers might be a good place to ask as well. I got introduced to this open-source tool Hasura. It gives you free service for back-end and handles a lot of issues about scalability. Please DM for more details https://hasura.io/

Re: Ask HN: Best free compute and other resources for startups?

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Post by dillonmckay »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #55
gameswithgo wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand why some are downvoting this but, with consumer internet connections being 1000up/down and a threadripper giving you like 100 cores for a few bucks, this can be a very handy solution, with quicker deploys and easier management. security might be too much of a concern for some applications

> with consumer internet connections being 1000up/down Step out of your Silicon Valley bubble and recognize that this doesn't apply to everyone. I only have 30 megabit up/down with Frontier. I can get faster, but it gets expensive quick, and I don't need more than 30 mbps, even as a gamer. Xfinity only offers 150 megabit down in my neighborhood, with a puny 15 megabit up, and for twice the price. And as others have m…

I disagree, but I do have Frontier w/ 12Mbps down, 768kbps up.

I worked on a startup, out of a dude’s house, he also owned the house next door.

I had three separate FiOS ONTs connected to the rackmount server in the living room.

Lots of live video streams.

The accounts were business, so when the gardener slices one of the fiber cables, it was fixed in a few hours, and the other ONT was still working.

My other buddy lives 2 hours away and has symmetric 1Gbps service for $50/mo in a rural area.

I would love to be able to have a symmetric connection.

Re: Ask HN: Best free compute and other resources for startups?

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Post by dillonmckay »

jedberg wrote: post #11
gameswithgo wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand why some are downvoting this but, with consumer internet connections being 1000up/down and a threadripper giving you like 100 cores for a few bucks, this can be a very handy solution, with quicker deploys and easier management. security might be too much of a concern for some applications

It's ok if you're ok with your service being down for days at a time. On vacation and the server breaks? Gotta wait till you get home. Internet down? Mine gigabit was just down for five days, a squirrel ate through the fiber and they had to a pull a new one. Running a server at home is fraught with peril but if those downtimes are ok, then go for it.

5 days?

Was this a business or consumer account?

Do you only have one ISP?

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