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Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

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With CTR of 1.5% and 245 visitors, it looks like you are making $0.5 per click. Is it true? It seems to me it's ridiculously high price, or at leaast not sustainable in the long term, isn't it? I'm learning web programming, trying to start up little sites. Please leave me your email or drop a line: nleschov at gmail

email sent. we'll have a chat and see if I can't help you out a bit :)

Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

#92
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Guess I didn't get the memo. I'm not quite at 500 yet, but it took 12 hours to make a site that makes 250 a day. I'm sure I can easily bring that up to 500 (for instance, the site doesn't even render in IE right now). And I can make another 10 like it. In response to FreeRadical: It's all about the point of diminishing returns. I spent 6 years on my first site, and it's a huge amount of work with literally thousands…

but it took 12 hours to make a site that makes 250 a day I'd really like to see the stats on that. Every time someone tells me that they spent (small amount of hours) on a website that (makes more than $1 a day) they are exaggerating to the extreme by not including advertising, hosting, domain expenses and maintenance time.

I would guess he is not exaggerating in the terms you mention, but what it took to get him there. Reading "12 hours...$250 a day" sounds like he started from zero. He probably didn't.

A while back there was this post about launching a minimally viable product in 3 hours. http://blog.amirkhella.com/2010/09/21/the-story-of-keynotopi... 3 hours and he's making money! What am I doing wrong?

Nothing. Take a look around his site. He is already an extensive expert in the field of user experience, with numerous successes under his belt. I am sure those successes were the product of a lot of education and years and years of hard work. He already has quite a following on his blog due to those successes. There was a lot that went on before he could start marketing something and sell it right off the bat.

Last summer I saw Michael Franti in concert. You may know him as the overnight success that had the song "Say Hey" if you listen to pop radio at all. (It has been in numerous TV shows, a Corona commercial, It was one of the songs played during Oprah's last show, etc.) I happen to know him as an artist who traveled from festival to festival year in and year out. Sometimes playing to a couple hundred people. Even before success, he was a world traveler, has played with indigenous people in the bush of third world countries with no electricity. He was a successful spoken word performer and has been in several bands that rose and fell long before he current lineup. I think he had released about 10 or 11 albums with various groups with virtually no mainstream success before the album that included Say Hey. At the concert I saw him at, he mentioned the press he was getting at being an overnight success and added, "yeah, with 20 years in the making."

So I guess you could say that Michael probably made hundreds of thousands of dollars for singing that 3 minute song. But there was a lot that went on in his life to get him there.

Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

#93
Free tip:

http://www.reddit.com/r/webgames

I don't know how many of these are going to be embeddable, but I drop by there every once in a while when I feel like procrastinating and sort by "top" for this month or whatever.

This is great for you because people are essentially finding games for you and crowd-sourcing a rating. The top games are usually pretty great. A handful have actually blown me away.

Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

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post #88
post #61

1.5% is really not bad at all! How much traffic do you get per day? I'd change the URL structure from numeric to keyword bases (happy to help with apache config if you like). I'd also provide a search box, powered by google search so you can still get ad clicks. Add an addthis.com button to each page to build backlinks and virality.

I'm on my third day of traffic so far. Waiting for analytics to arrive. I had about 50 visitors yesterday and think I might be approaching 1000 for today :) I've upgraded to adding TAGS & Categories for links - but am still stuck with numbers on the games codes. I think you might be right though, in terms of SEO that will improve value. Unfortunately, at the moment, I'm populating the game page via ajax so google won…

yeah, fstr.net/arcade-game is better than fstr.net/651

for memorability but also hugely important for SEO.

Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

#95
post #87

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I've had best responses with Amazon's affiliate program. Made about $130 bucks from something like 5 or 6 blog posts. Hourly rate worth it? Nope. Was it fun? Yep. Basically what I've learned is that Google's dynamic ad placement is the last thing you should try. Putting in an ad (or affiliate link, there are even services that will auto do this with Javascript, so you're users wont see and you don't have to be part o…

I've written a context sensitive affiliate adserver that serves relevant ads via Javascript. That works reasonably well, but I do need to optimize the ads themselves some.

That is really cool. Have you open sourced it? It's JavaScript in the first place so I know anyone can see it in your site, but it would be cool to track it on Github.

Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

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post #86
post #79

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But what part actually earns you money?

On that site I make $100-$180 month from affiliate sales, $5-$10 from AdSense. If you are dealing with physical products then affiliate programs can work quite well. Edit: On my friend's site is is all AdSense. His is non-physical product related.

URLs please

Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

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I worked in technical support for 12 years. Yeah it's amazing how people treat other people over the phone or email.

Working in tech and retail showed me this. I decided to make it up to the world in general, in a small way. So now, every christmas, I find some of the services I use (like my bank, full of VERY helpful, friendly people) who have call centres active on Christmas day, and I ring them and say thanks and Merry Christmas. The only downside is occasionally someone will cry because a random stranger wished them a Merry Chr…

That's awesome. We had a customer who would call in about once a week just to say hi and thank us. It's not supposed to work this way - but I guarantee she got the best service of any of our customers. I once had a customer call me back after a bad call, and apologize for being rude. It did nearly make me cry.

Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

#98
post #87

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I've written a context sensitive affiliate adserver that serves relevant ads via Javascript. That works reasonably well, but I do need to optimize the ads themselves some.

That is really cool. Have you open sourced it? It's JavaScript in the first place so I know anyone can see it in your site, but it would be cool to track it on Github.

No, it's not open source.

Not much in in Javascript - just the part that displays the ad. All the intelligence is on the server, mostly in Java.

Re: Ask HN: I made $1.01 yesterday. What next?

#99
post #56

30% to 70% CTR is nearly impossible. You can only get it in very specific cases. 1.5% CTR is pretty good for Adsense. If you can get it up to 5%, consider yourself lucky.

Recently, I had to find a new copy of lame_enc.dll for a computer I just bought. Every site I landed on (besides sourceforge) had three or four "Download" buttons. I wasn't confident that ANY of them weren't ads. I'm sure those pages have a great ad CTR.

I recently did a survey of those sites, and a large number of those links are links to other similar paid products that have more or less relevance to what they're linking to or are of the '$5/month virus check' variety.
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