Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

news.ycombinator.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

91–100 of 158 posts

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

#91

Post by pc86 »

digitalzombie wrote: post #64
AndrewDucker wrote: post #3

Glassdoor is the place you want to go for this kind of information. You're not going to get anywhere near a large enough sample from a few comments on HN.

I had a bad experience with glassdoor. I wrote about my bad experience at one of the company I interned for. Some PR from the company comment on my review, I knew the PR guy cuz he goes around doing it to other reviews there and create fake reviews. Anyway, I call him out on it said he's using ad hominem for one of his tactic in the comment. Other users comment and back my report up. After a few week glassdoor delete…

> Eventually they did away with the comment system.

Sounds like that was a positive step, wasn't it? Getting rid of the system that allowed the company to comment on your review?

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

#92

Post by ApplThwaway100 »

doktrin wrote: post #58
gigatexal wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That package is with what firm?

> ApplThwaway100 Apple, probably

Yes. To clarify, I work in Cupertino, CA as well. Stock also had a nice bump too, jumped 10-20% since my vesting start date.

I was hired at one level above entry level.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

#93

Post by hocuspocus »

doktrin wrote: post #48
Viker wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do people feel this way about their salaries. Always seemed to me that in the grand tottal we will be better off if we did discuss our salaries publicly. I make around 60k usd in a Scandinavian startup as a programmer with experience. What is so big deal about it

> I make around 60k usd in a Scandinavian startup as a programmer with experience I'm still trying to wrap my head around why European developers earn significantly less than virtually all their American counterparts, even in high cost of living areas (like Scandinavia) I do understand you specified you work for a startup, but even at one of the many established regional consultancies dev salaries tend to cap out at…

* Basic supply and demand. As long as you manage to hire developers, why pay more?

* The job market is a lot more scattered than in the US, there are fewer hubs concentrating software jobs. This dilutes competition.

* The job market is typically less fluid. This translates into more job security, but also a certain complacency.

* Europe hasn't seen the birth of many very-high margins software companies, generating millions per developer (off the top of my head I can think of SAP maybe, but that's B2B).

* Consequently, there's also less recognition for software developers, and their perceived value is lower than that of mechanical engineers for instance.

* Also, outdated management style is still fairly prevalent as you noted.

* VCs have no reason to push for salaries higher than necessary. European startups pitch cheap engineering as an advantage compared to being based in the Bay area.

I don't think egalitarianism has anything to do with our salaries. We might see the value in higher taxes, stronger labor rights, and a narrower income inequality. But I've never met a software developer who thinks they should inherently be less paid than say, a lawyer.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

#94

Post by desarun »

macca321 wrote: post #71
tomtompl wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know, I live and work in UK and still the up to £50k in the company like Amazon sounds dirt low, I know devs working for DailyMail (!!) for ~£90k

I'd need to be paid a lot more than that to work for them.

If you set aside the slow erosion of human decency that is the Daily Mail, their tech stack is very impressive.

From an engineering point of view they kill it, they're one of the most visited sites in the world.

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/dailymail.co.uk

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

#95

Post by bitcoinmoney »

rndmswethrwawy wrote: post #23

Staff SWE, Google Seattle. Total 2018 comp will be around 550k with a roughly 55/45 equity/cash split if GOOG shares remain constant. Historically they have typically gone up meaningfully over the course of any given year. The cash component includes base salary and bonus.

how long have you been working in the industry already?

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

#96

Post by beamatronic »

arebop wrote: post #77
dx034 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For someone not working in tech, what is the difference between an engineer and a principal engineer?

The Principal has a very distinguished and widely-recognized track record of achievement.

What's interesting here is the social dimension of this. It's not enough that you are competent and have achievements. They key is that your achievements are recognized socially.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

#97

Post by [deleted] »

0xff78d4a4 wrote: post #86

SWE III (One level above new grad) in Boulder, CO with 4 years at Google: ~$225k total comp with 60/40 cash [Salary+Bonus]/equity. For reference, Google's ladder goes: SWE II -> SWE III -> Senior SWE -> Staff SWE -> Senior Staff SWE -> Principal -> Distinguished.

[deleted]

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

#98

Post by expertentipp »

alanmessy wrote: post #79
expertentipp wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is technically illegal to fire you for discussing this, at least in the US. Funny, I know of American corporation which operates low cost center over here while paying 30-40% of American salaries and forbidding the employee from sharing its salary for 10 years (sic!) in the employment contract.

If in the US, it is illegal for them to have that in the employment contract and they could be sued for that. I'm not sure how it works if it's not operating in the US, but if it's a US company, might still apply. My company abides by all US laws because they're headquartered in US, but have offices worldwide. According to this law: https://www.nlrb.gov/resources/national-labor-relations-act employees can talk about…

So the American company operates over here low cost center and exploits all legal means for this location to remain low cost... but hey! enjoy your "salary disclosure freedom".

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

#99

Post by sage76 »

317070 wrote: post #76

London, 0 experience, have Phd. Google Research Scientist:90k£ base, 100k£ bonus and stock

How bad are the visa issues surrounding hiring of internationals who do Phd in the UK?

Do you have any idea if smaller companies and govt research labs sponsor?

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

#100

Post by doktrin »

hocuspocus wrote: post #93
doktrin wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I make around 60k usd in a Scandinavian startup as a programmer with experience I'm still trying to wrap my head around why European developers earn significantly less than virtually all their American counterparts, even in high cost of living areas (like Scandinavia) I do understand you specified you work for a startup, but even at one of the many established regional consultancies dev salaries tend to cap out at…

* Basic supply and demand. As long as you manage to hire developers, why pay more? * The job market is a lot more scattered than in the US, there are fewer hubs concentrating software jobs. This dilutes competition. * The job market is typically less fluid. This translates into more job security, but also a certain complacency. * Europe hasn't seen the birth of many very-high margins software companies, generating mi…

I agree with all of your points, but want to add an observation :

> Basic supply and demand. As long as you manage to hire developers, why pay more?

I know of several companies (Norway) that are almost desperate for more talent - to the extent that they are turning down lucrative projects. Nonetheless, I am also not aware of any of them making significant changes to their compensation. I can only theorize as to why this is, but my sense is that it has to do both with a fairly static billing structure that doesn't scale with experience, and concern for parity within the organization.

Post reply on HN