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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get a self-driving car and just do the side-projects during the commute.

As someone who suffers from severe motion sickness when I take my eyes off the road, public transit is already awful, and if people start expecting me to do work during my commute I'm going to have to file for disability or something.

I believe it is the horizon that needs to be seen, even in peripheral vision.

Re: Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

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Sorry for asking the pessimistic question, by no means do i intend to be a troll, but don't you think that it is irresponsible bringing children in to a world where you can't even take the free evenings after working 8+ hours and giving your best? (because you need to "stay competitive or something"). The developer culture of living to work (instead of the other way around) and being totally cool about it is somethin…

"... You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it."

Re: Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

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My partner and I pretend we're divorced. We noticed before we had our first that our friends who were divorced with kids actually got out once in a while, because they shared custody. So we have what amounts to an oncall schedule - certain days I'm 100% in charge of kiddo, certain days he is. There's some exceptions for commute stuff - daycare is closer to my work- but this means you sleep in on your weekend day off,…

I've looked longingly at divorced folks myself, with every other week off.

More expenses though.

Re: Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

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post #51

I'm a founder looking for ways to make my next startup family-friendly. I'm a parent of two sons in SF so I know what it's like. A grab bag of ideas so far: - Allow parents to bring babies to work (0-6mo) - Locate in suburbs where parents live instead of in the city - Hire remote employees who work from home - Establish a culture of taking an office break around 4-5pm then resume at 8pm for a couple hours - Do social…

Sounds great! Except the working after 8pm thing??

Re: Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

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Even without your insane commute, your description of your life sounds like mine. I'm a data scientist by trade, married, and father of three young ones (5, 2, and 4 months). My side project is writing (I've always wanted to be a published author), and it drives me looney always being so tapped out and exhausted. I try to enjoy family life while they're young because I know they'll become more independent as they get older, but man, when I'm too tired to do anything when my "alone time" rolls around after I get the older kids to bed, and when it seems my wife and I rarely get 1:1 time, it really makes me cranky and resentful. So the writing doesn't get done, and neither does any continuing education.

What I'm trying out is getting to bed earlier (hey, if I'm too tired to do the things I value then maybe I should just sleep!), and I'm starting to exercise. I've been told that exercise helps 1) sleep better, 2) feel better, and 3) gives you more energy. We'll see how it goes!

But yeah, try to figure out a way out of that commute. Some people are able to turn their commute into productive time, but I never had the knack. My understanding is that this phase is just that, a phase, and as the kids get older it will get easier in some ways.

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post #30

I have three young kids. My experience has been: 1) sleep (a normal amount, not extra) 2) being an OK parent 3) a house that is almost always fairly clean 4) side projects/learning 5) friends 6) a relationship with your partner/spouse that's doing OK 7) actual solo leisure time Pick four . :-/ [EDIT] Oh, and "staying halfway in shape" comes out of your "actual solo leisure time" hours or possibly "friends" hours if y…

Well put! I like how you Incorporated trade-offs into this comment. Yes, you can have X, but something will have to give. Sleep, time with friends, alone time, time with spouse, learning time, etc... There's only so much time to go around, and it's amazing how the arrival of each kid diminishes your available time further and further. With three little ones now it seems virtually impossible to keep up with everything we got done when we had only two. There are days I do nothing but kid stuff: feeding, cleaning up after, playing with, wiping butts, vacuuming, cooking, dishes, blah blah blah. I don't know how dual-earner households do it. My wife is a stay-at-home Mom, and even so we're both maxed out.

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I have 10 kids, soon to be 11, and I homeschool. So... that's how open source projects go to die, and the major reason why I no longer maintain procps. This was painful, but family comes first. The concept of "quality time" is broken. You can't squeeze life into a few spare moments here and there, and you mostly can't schedule it. You have to live it, being there for the skinned knees that can happen at any moment. T…

Love everything about this answer. I like how you live. Well done!

Re: Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

#98
This was my life till 2011 when I renegotiated my contract to work mornings only (5 hours). That gave me afternoons off with benefit of stress-free commute home.

It wasn't easy to get the arrangement but I started off with two days of the week at first and then upped it to all five days.

If you can tolerate reduction in income, that's a respectable arrangement to start off with.

Re: Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

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My GF and her little boy moved in with me recently, that was a shock to the system, I knew on a conceptual level how much time kids took but damn was I underestimating the effort required.

I try to keep him entertained as much as possible so that she gets some time for herself even its just a soak in the bath while we play xbox or something.

It's been fun and hardworking but I dont regret it either.

Fortunately they share custody so it's usually half week here, half week at his dads.

That recharge time is important and something a lot of parents never get.

Re: Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

#100
Father of two (aged 4 and 5) and running an small company of 14 developers.

Before they were born, I always reserved some tasks for weekends, and spend several hours coding at night during workdays.

It took me almost three years to realise that this was absolutely not compatible with family. I used to "steal" sleep time instead of family time, so I ended sleeping between 2 and 4 hours a day. Even productivity was good, I was always tired and in bad mood.

While it was really difficult to change long term habits, I work now from 9.00 to 17.30 with 15 minutes commute time, I dedicate most of my non working time to my kids and wife, and I am now a extremely happy person, and also the people closer to me :)

And productivity has grown because I can focus on the really important things, both at home and at work.

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