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Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

#891
post #228

As a hiring manager, I would say that the job market is still pretty strong for any engineer who can do fizzbuzz on the spot. However, its now much tougher in the tech-adjacent fields such as graphic design, copywriting, and project management. Not so many openings, many applicants. Even if you get the job, pay and prospects are not great.

What about data science areas like machine learning, deep learning and AI?

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#892
post #523

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Intermediate/mid for sure, but if I get a resume from someone whose first programming job was 2018 and they're calling themselves senior, I'm throwing that in the trash unless like you said they're from VC-funded startups that are going to have massive title inflation and they're applying for a realistic (mid-level) role.

Any senior developer using in resume term "senior"?

Since 2005ish.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

#893

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It's strange because economically, tech is roaring back and the job market is tight as ever. Are employers hedging against this perpetually 6 month away recession? Is there a shift from growth mindset to value mindset?

It is pretty funny. During Covid I heard all sorts of doom about inflation and the economy, while I was chugging along great. Now, no one will shut up about how there are so many jobs and how the economy is doing great, but I’m fucked.

We're into the next election cycle and PACs on both sides are engaged in viral marketing. You can no longer trust that any news is sincere and hasn't been sourced from people with a political agenda.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

#894

I tried advertising as a consultancy, after an exceptional career in tech. * Client emails me asking if I can help with his site. I respond. He asks for more details. I respond. He provides a website with an MLM video on how to "be your own boss and sell a product that sells itself". I was talking to a bot. * Try upwork. Spend all day to send 15 proposals, get 3 views, no replies. Upwork wants me to pay money monthly…

What channels did you use to advertise? Can upwork be a good starting spot?

I advertised from linkedin and my websites. Upwork is bad. You would need to do some nearly free work for awhile to get some ratings and a 'rising talent' rating, to start to be considered for work.

Once you work for free for a few weeks you might start to get some traction but you'll quickly run out of "connects", that allow you to bid for proposals. Basically you have to pay upwork to apply to gigs, and then upwork takes a cut if you get the gig, and most the gigs posted want to pay offshore rates, eg 10 - $30/hr for AI work, or skilled software engineering.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

#895

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You don't know their situation or work history, why reply with something so negative?

A veteran is someone who has served in the armed forces. It's like saying "I have 10 years tenure" when they're not a tenured professor, but just mean "have worked in the industry/position for 10 years".

You just aren't familiar with the more generic definitions of "veteran" and "tenure". "Tenure", especially, is not reserved for the well-defined academic track.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

#896
post #602

As someone on the other side, with open positions we're hiring for: There are probably fewer job openings than there were, but I don't think my company or anyone in my network have changed HOW they're hiring, but we have definitely noticed a huge uptick in volume of applications. Earlier in the year, we were getting almost nothing. Now we're getting hundreds of resumes a week for each open position, and the bulk of e…

> I think my suggestion is, do what you can to stand out Really, once you are unemployed and looking for a job, it’s too late to do anything to stand out. The time to do something to standout is while you are working. How will emailing someone directly help if he doesn’t have a unique set of skills that helps him stand out? If he is just another generic developer (no offense intended I don’t know anything about him a…

Strongly disagree with this. Its very easy to stand out, in many different ways.

> How will emailing someone directly help if he doesn’t have a unique set of skills that helps him stand out?

Because they will indicate their very direct interest in the company in a way that people who are spray-and-praying 100s of resumes a day won't. Because they get to briefly demonstrate their soft skills to a potential teammate in a way that might not be conveyed in just a resume.

I'd hire a generic skillset developer who is a great communicator and teammate over a technical genius asshole who shreds teams apart 99.9% of the time. I've made this choice personally many, many times across my career as an engineering leader.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

#897
post #502

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I haven't looked for jobs in nearly 9 years now. Is a LinkedIn profile essential nowadays? I have dropped all social media and LinkedIn is one of the most invasive. I really dislike how it notifies you for everything

It's a primary tool for a recruiter. If you are in a situation where you need recruiters to help you find work I think it would be worth the effort.

Having them centralized on one platform is an asset when you want to avoid the people who will sell off you contact info and resume to unscrupulous body shops. Cut out LI and apply directly whenever possible.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

#898
post #799

Rejection email? You were lucky to get a rejection! Or an email. We used have to lick the bosses boots clean, applying for a job paying penny a year, an' if we were lucky we might get a thrashing to within an inch of our lives, and a rejection screamed in our ear. Luxury.... . Yes sure, I'm in the same boat, but probably with worse prospects (took a 'career break' to work on side projects, etc), and it feels like I'm…

33 applications since 1st of June: - 2 rejected after interview. - 2 ghosted after interview. - 3 declined on my part after interview for various reasons (1 paid essentially below minimum wage, and 2 required relocating to a different country which is fine by me for the right job, but I didn't really have a good feeling about either). - 8 rejected by email. - 18 no reply (but some might still reply, since it can take…

I would kill for even a 10% reply rate.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

#899
post #20

My linkedin views are basically rock bottom and the twice-daily recruiter spam has stopped entirely. From my assessment of my network anyone who lost their job is looking, or has been looking for a long time. The market is effectively dead. Even if you set your sights extremely low. Even corporate suit-and-tie programmer jobs are drying up. I don't know what I'll do if I lose my job. Construction, maybe. I can't be w…

I find it to actually be a bit quicker paced than late last year, I am at least finding enough listings to conceivably apply to currently, couldn't say as much back then.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

#900

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This is exaggerated, we just hired someone and don't give these kinds of tests or expect this level of correctness. I feel like this is fed by anxiety. I really doubt a large amount of ordinary companies have switched to FAANG leetcode + system design interview formats because of a downtown.

I think its fed by people trying to get good jobs. On average, better companies have harder technical assessments.

The comment two up was talking about regurgitating memorized solutions. If you can memorize a solution and then just copy it down, the problem must be not very involved I guess.
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