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Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by sizzle »

tough wrote: post #752
IKantRead wrote: post #581

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The idea that "experience" is an outdated concept would only make sense coming from an industry that really doesn't even really have "senior" people. Having worked in multiple fields throughout my life, I deeply miss the presence of truly experienced coworkers. For example one of the lessons of experience is that skill in the immediate task at hand is only a part of the overall engineering skillset. Experienced profe…

> One trait of experienced devs I've seen, that I've not seen in even the sharpest but less experienced ones, is the ability to see problems that will arise down the road from miles away. This is called second (or third) order thinking btw.

I thought it was systems thinking?

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Post by omgmajk »

kaycey2022 wrote: post #570
omgmajk wrote: post #352

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It flops from side to side, six months/a year ago I got about one-three per week, now zero for several months and only bot adds.

How do you identify a bot ad?

No profile picture, working in some big company that is entirely unrelated to me, lots of common connections but no posts, no engagement or anything. For example I have had five that works as "engagement manager at walmart" add me in the last few weeks, and also people common to me, I can see the number of common contacts go up by just updating the page because a lot of people will just accept any connection request.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by macintosh-hd »

Paul-Craft wrote: post #97
sosodev wrote: post #65

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That ratio isn’t bad tho

That's half the response rate I was getting years ago when I was trying for my first job with no internships and a non-CS STEM degree from BFE Midwest Liberal Arts College.

I truly graduated just 6 months too late, apparently.

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Post by macintosh-hd »

rootusrootus wrote: post #628

Everyone wants to work remotely. But that means now you are probably competing with hundreds of other applicants for any halfway interesting job.

I figured me not caring between remote and in office would increase my chances, but it really doesn't feel like it has. I think the market is really bad right now.

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Post by webdood90 »

jimmychoozyx wrote: post #744
hapless wrote: post #662

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Everyone uses the FAANG loop + system design + leetcode design now I don't know when that change happened but it is practically universal

Everyone? Nah that's Hyperbole. In my experience about 40% do. I've never had an issue simply showing an open source past project I created, going through my portfolio of other project examples, and my resume.

40% of the general population? sure

for desirable employers with competitive pay, I'd guess closer to 80%.

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Post by pacomerh »

5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #41

FED is finished . i would suggest moving into something with higher barrier to entry. last 4 FED my company hired are ex-sales/ex-whatever bootcampers (yes my company is cheap). remote working is the final nail. still few good FED jobs but you have 10,000s expert leetcoders fired by faang to compete.

Not really, it's evolving for sure. But maybe you say this because your company's front-end is simple, I've seen complex systems that require specific knowledge of FED, not just general engineering. There are companies who like to separate FED and BED to get more narrow expertise

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Post by vasili111 »

swat535 wrote: post #491

I can only speak to my personal experience of attempting to hire engineers. We started a hiring 2 weeks ago, the top engineers are taken off the market _before_ we even get a chance to interview them! (usually within 3-5 days). We had to accelerate our process and nearly double our offers to have a fighting chance. So at least from where I'm standing, the market is pretty aggressive at the moment.

> the top engineers

How you would define them? What makes for you someone a "top engineer"?

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Post by mighmi »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #173
mighmi wrote: post #130

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How do you find these positions? I speak German and did my studies there but always worked in other places.

> worked in other places ...like what? And where did you get/find your jobs? I found a lot of jobs just by checking out all the big name companies directly (banks, insurances, BRZ, ...) of Austria, via recruiters from LinkedIn, I can also HIGHLY recommend contacting the company "ePunkt", they are supportive, almost pushy and forceful in getting you into in person job interviews. IT rat catcher consulting companies li…

Thank you for the advice!

> ...like what?

Russia and the US. All through personal connections.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by eikenberry »

scarface_74 wrote: post #822
noodle wrote: post #602

As someone on the other side, with open positions we're hiring for: There are probably fewer job openings than there were, but I don't think my company or anyone in my network have changed HOW they're hiring, but we have definitely noticed a huge uptick in volume of applications. Earlier in the year, we were getting almost nothing. Now we're getting hundreds of resumes a week for each open position, and the bulk of e…

> I think my suggestion is, do what you can to stand out Really, once you are unemployed and looking for a job, it’s too late to do anything to stand out. The time to do something to standout is while you are working. How will emailing someone directly help if he doesn’t have a unique set of skills that helps him stand out? If he is just another generic developer (no offense intended I don’t know anything about him a…

While I agree it is better to look for work while working, I don't see how that impacts how you stand out in a hiring process. How can you leverage an existing job to stand out to a new potential employer (while looking, ie. short time scales)?
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