Meanwhile engineers across the globe scramble to fix outages due to AWS s3, $AMZN is unaffected on the stock market. Just shows the disconnect between emotions and reality.
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Ask HN: Is S3 down?
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Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?
#852Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud. Apologies if you find this to be in poor taste, but GCS directly supports the S3 XML API (including v4): https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/interoperability and has easy to use multi-regional support at a fraction of the cost of what it would take on AWS. I directly point my NAS box at home to GCS instead of S3 (sadly having to modify the little PHP client code to point it to st…
The brilliance of open sourcing Borg (aka Kubernetes) is evident in times like these. We[0] are seeing more and more SaaS companies abstract away their dependencies on AWS or any particular cloud provider with Kubernetes. Managing stateful services is still difficult but we are starting to see paths forward [1] and the community's velocity is remarkable. K8s seems to be the wolf in sheep's clothing that will break AW…
Note that Kubernetes "builds upon 15 years of experience of running production workloads [on Borg] at Google" [0], but is different code than Borg.
In addition to Rook, Minio [1] is also working to build an S3 alternative on top of Kubernetes, and the CNCF Landscape is a good way of tracking projects in the space [2].
[0] https://kubernetes.io/ [1] https://www.minio.io/ [2] https://github.com/cncf/landscape
Disclosure: I'm the executive director of CNCF, which hosts Kubernetes, and co-author of the landscape.
Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?
#853Earlier quoted context omitted.
I always joke that if one of those statuses ever went to red, it means the zombie apocalypse has begun.
I've heard (on the Fnord new show on the most recent CCC congress, so take it with a grain of salt and a bucket of humor) that Amazon's TOS are more or less void when a Zombie Apocalypse breaks out. They had some convoluted but fairly specific wording in their TOS, whoever wrote must have had a lot of fun.
From https://aws.amazon.com/service-terms/
> 57.10 Acceptable Use; Safety-Critical Systems. Your use of the Lumberyard Materials must comply with the AWS Acceptable Use Policy. The Lumberyard Materials are not intended for use with life-critical or safety-critical systems, such as use in operation of medical equipment, automated transportation systems, autonomous vehicles, aircraft or air traffic control, nuclear facilities, manned spacecraft, or military use in connection with live combat. However, this restriction will not apply in the event of the occurrence (certified by the United States Centers for Disease Control or successor body) of a widespread viral infection transmitted via bites or contact with bodily fluids that causes human corpses to reanimate and seek to consume living human flesh, blood, brain or nerve tissue and is likely to result in the fall of organized civilization.
Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?
#854Earlier quoted context omitted.
High availability is improved by hosting in multiple AWS regions. S3 offers alternative region replication functionality and you can use Cloudfront of another CDN to load balance between buckets
But do you always serve files from S3? Wasn't the entire S3 down today? Or was it just some regions? I couldn't even connect to s3.amazonaws.com ...
Only one region, us-east.
Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?
#855Notice how Amazon.com itself is unaffected. They're a lot smarter than us.
I do recall reading somewhere that Amazon.com isn't actually hosted or fully leveraging on the AWS platform, mostly due to the political struggle between the AWS and the merchant department.
There are public talks on Youtube from Amazon.com titled "Drinking our own Champagne" where they say the opposite.
Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?
#856Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud. Apologies if you find this to be in poor taste, but GCS directly supports the S3 XML API (including v4): https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/interoperability and has easy to use multi-regional support at a fraction of the cost of what it would take on AWS. I directly point my NAS box at home to GCS instead of S3 (sadly having to modify the little PHP client code to point it to st…
Not poor taste at all. Love GCP. I actually host two corporate static sites using Google Cloud Storage and it is fantastic. I just wish there was a bucket wide setting to adjust the cache-control setting. Currently it defaults to 1 hour, and if you want to change it, you have to use the API/CLI and provide a custom cache control value each upload. I'd love to see a default cache-control setting in the web UI applying to the entire bucket.
I also want to personally thank Solomon (@boulos) for hooking me up with a Google Cloud NEXT conference pass. He is awesome!
Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?
#857Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?
#858Mass outage like this is exactly one of the things we are looking to avoid by building a decentralized storage grid with Sia. Sia are immune to situations like this because data is stored redundantly across dozens of servers around the world that are all running on different, unique configurations. Furthermore, there's no single central point of control on the Sia network. Sia is still under heavy development, but it…
Oddly, the self promo worked for a Google employee (see the top rated comment by boulos), but not for you.
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#859Earlier quoted context omitted.
We were on GCP for around a year, it was my decision I really wanted to love GCP and I initially did. But we recently switched to AWS. I think there is little GCP does better than AWS. Pricing is better on paper, but performance per buck seems to be on par. Stability is a lot worse on GCP, and I don't just mean service outages like this one (which they had their fair share) but also individual issues like instances s…
Functions are going beta this week
And discontinued next year?
Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?
#860Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am surprised more people don't know about it. I get questions like https://github.com/kahing/goofys/issues/158 every now and then and to be fair I don't think they market it well: https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/migrating Disclosure: I don't work for google but have an upcoming interview there.
"Disclosure: I don't work for google but have an upcoming interview there." Disclosure: I took a tour there one time and have used google. EDIT: I realized that I was being mean, but why was that disclaimer relevant?
A few possible reasons, the most obvious being grandparent is disclosing a possible source of bias.
Also it could look suspicious if grandparent gets the job and at some point in the future someone looks back at this comment.
If in doubt, disclose. Especially in the tech industry, that's what Gamergate was actually about.