Ask HN: Who is hiring? (June 2019) • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Who is hiring? (June 2019)

#831

Post by doh » Sun, Jun 23, 2019, 8:28 PM UTC

random42 wrote: post #830

doh wrote: post #829

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you reas as a snark was just a point. He called the library obscure. Don’t believe many others would use that description. I quoted it to make a point not to take a stab at him. Same goes to this conversation. While you attack me personally I just address your points.

There is no personal attack, I am saying your manner of presenting the point puts OP down, with snark , which many, including myself won't like. You can choose to "win" the argument, or you can choose to learn. > I quoted it to make a point not to take a stab at him. "For JS projects, we ask candidates to use immutable.js, which has 27k stars on github, which most wont' consider as obscure" vs. "... the “obscure” lib…

We have different style of communication. You are obviously more sensitive to the style of writing than I’m. You are correct I could have style my answer differently.

I was trying to address the two points he made for other candidates. He used strong language and I just addressed his exact words.

As you said, in your earlier comment, we would not work well together.

Re: Ask HN: Who is hiring? (June 2019)

#832

Post by dang » Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 6:01 AM UTC

mammamiacomme wrote: post #810

Warning: I interviewed with them and was given a task with an obscure library to learn which had a veeeery long API. When I pointed out that it was unreasonable for them to expect me to learn this unknown library, which was not even in the job spec, they ghosted me. Complete waste of time.

Posting like this breaks the rules at the top of the thread. Not cool; please don't. I'm not saying you didn't have a bad experience, but these threads are not a suitable place for getting to the bottom of what happened in any remotely fair way.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20087521 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Ask HN: Who is hiring? (June 2019)

#833

Post by dang » Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 6:02 AM UTC

random42 wrote: post #828

doh wrote: post #827

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about it. He said it's an obscure library. I wanted to make sure that others get the full picture.

I am fascinated to see that you do not see anything wrong with sacra-quoting someone-else's words in Public. I am glad that I don't interact with you regularly.

Hounding someone like this (in a job ad thread, of all places) is not cool. Please don't do this on HN again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Ask HN: Who is hiring? (June 2019)

#834

Post by random42 » Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 9:35 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #833

random42 wrote: post #828

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am fascinated to see that you do not see anything wrong with sacra-quoting someone-else's words in Public. I am glad that I don't interact with you regularly.

Hounding someone like this (in a job ad thread, of all places) is not cool. Please don't do this on HN again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Could you point me to exact guideline? I fail to see it in the list.

I do however see 'dont be snarky'.

Re: Ask HN: Who is hiring? (June 2019)

#835

Post by dang » Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 4:26 PM UTC

random42 wrote: post #834

dang wrote: post #833

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hounding someone like this (in a job ad thread, of all places) is not cool. Please don't do this on HN again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Could you point me to exact guideline? I fail to see it in the list. I do however see 'dont be snarky'.

"Be kind", for starters.

Re: Ask HN: Who is hiring? (June 2019)

#836

Post by random42 » Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 4:47 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #835

random42 wrote: post #834

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you point me to exact guideline? I fail to see it in the list. I do however see 'dont be snarky'.

"Be kind", for starters.

Which is my point as well through out the comment thread.

Are you sure you are not picking your favorite position in the argument, and reffering the opposing perspective as "not in line with the guidelines"?

Re: Ask HN: Who is hiring? (June 2019)

#837

Post by dang » Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 6:43 PM UTC

random42 wrote: post #836

dang wrote: post #835

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Be kind", for starters.

Which is my point as well through out the comment thread. Are you sure you are not picking your favorite position in the argument, and reffering the opposing perspective as "not in line with the guidelines"?

I know it always feels like the mods must be against you when you get a mod reply, but I'm moderately sure we're not doing that. There is probably some unconscious bias but given how much practice we have at staying neutral—e.g. making a point of moderating bad comments even if we agree with them—such bias is probably relatively subtle. We also have a lot of practice at reviewing our own decisions, since users aren't shy about pointing out what they feel was biased. Most times, the calls we made are defensible to the community, meaning the majority of people here feel that what we did was reasonable. If we were grossly biased, we'd get major pushback from the community, which is always on the lookout for moderator overreach. That doesn't happen very often.

The thing is, even if someone else was being unkind, you still have to follow the site guidelines in how you respond.