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Re: Ask HN: What's the "best" book you've ever read?

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So to clarify here, you don’t know what the book is about — but you are confident enough in your knowledge of the Correct Feelings a person should have about it — that you hang the futures of your social interactions on that calculus? Of course Rand lovers don’t have a monopoly over freedom of association. That said, doing something that looks antisocial and silly from the outside and then responding to the lightest…

Dude I read it in 8th grade. That was close to 30 years ago. All I remember about the book was the rant about cigarette brands at the train station and some notions about selfishness being a moral good or some such nonsense. It didn't speak to me then, and every time I've been dared to read it I've been bored to sleep. Now as for why I do this? This book creates such a wild reaction in people that it's an effective t…

> I don't actually care about the book. I don't understand why people care about the book. I care about keeping pains in the ass out of my life

That is a yes to my question, then. You do not know what the book is about but you do know the Correct Feelings that others should have about it.

You’ve clarified that you do not lie to strangers because you need them to feel a particular way about Ayn Rand. It seems that you have voluntarily posted in the book thread, unprompted, that you lie to strangers about something arbitrary as a test to suss out who will and will not be adequately deferential to you.

It is an odd thing to post and then vociferously defend, and it reminds me of a post I saw, “People willingly share things online that you couldn’t waterboard out of me”. That being said, I don’t think anyone is clutching pearls here unless you define literally any criticism at all as such.

You must forgive me for pointing out that it seems like Atlas Shrugged is actually your favorite book. It is simply everything you said before and after our initial interaction that made it seem that way, and you have made it clear that it provides you a crucial value that no other book does, after all .

Re: Ask HN: What's the "best" book you've ever read?

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“She.” J. K. Jemisin is a woman (of color). I had no idea, myself, until after I had read The Broken Earth series, and wanted to find out more about the author. I did enjoy her stuff, but it isn’t what I’d want on my Desert Island list.

You are a "he." > it isn’t what I’d want on my Desert Island list. That's what I said.

My apologies, then. I misread the post.

Thanks for the correction.

Re: Ask HN: What's the "best" book you've ever read?

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>> It's old, but the beginning especially is just a non-stop adventure. It always drags a bit for me after the first third, but picks up again and continues to be great throughout. Yeah, as much as I love Count Monte Christo as a story, being it a movie ( https://youtu.be/qesn8pV9yu8?si=ssccZfQGf9F1fCk3 ), series ( https://youtu.be/bF1Z7irZLdY?si=oDF0OnB-1NWVfwZq ) or anime ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gankutsuou:…

Try "Best served cold" by Joe Abercrombie. Followed by The Heroes. And to avoid minor spoilers, read the First Law trilogy first. All good books are great, The heroes is probably the best!

Thanks, it looks more like fantasy than fiction - I always liked that Count is embeded is real historic events despite me being fantasy fan and almost never reading historic fiction. But somehow in Counts case it seems essential (and that's way anime adaptation was my least favorite).

Anyway I will check it out.

Re: Ask HN: What's the "best" book you've ever read?

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"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams. It's hilarious, absurd, and surprisingly thought-provoking. There are many philosophical questions and lessons that are not really presented as such (though they aren't hidden, either). I read it when I was young, it really shaped my sense of humor and got me thinking about some of life and the universe's big questions.

HHGG is strange. I absolutely loved it when I read it for the first time (in my thirties).

Then at some point I decided to re-read the whole thing and it was decidedly underwhelming. A let down even.

Has anyone else experienced that?

Re: Ask HN: What's the "best" book you've ever read?

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post #720

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Consider Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle". A looong, socialist monologue takes up a big chunk of the book. It's the socialist version of "Atlas Shrugged".

The West Wing is this for American liberals.

Though not as dull. Rand's writing can send you off to sleep in no time - and then if you're reading in bed you risk having the book fall on your head.

Re: Ask HN: What's the "best" book you've ever read?

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I know almost nothing about Atlas Shrugged, besides that it is very political, but this seems a strange and deceptive way to interact with people. I can't imagine it is very good for establishing trust with someone even if they "pass the test". I would think that many level-headed people you seek to select for would not appreciate being tested in this way, but I suppose you are selecting for a very specific kind of p…

It is political, but it is also not a good book. Like, it has a gigantic monologue in the middle where one of the main characters just stands there and expounds on the theme of the book, for many pages. It is not well written. If somebody said they liked… some books by Heinlein or whatever, there’s a guy with some Political Opinions. But he can write . It is believable, picking a Heinlein book isn’t an obvious politi…

> a gigantic monologue in the middle

So just because you can't think of another book that has this, it's not well written?

idk I'm no follower of objectivism but Atlas Shrugged is a book you definitely dont forget... and in my classification that makes it good

Re: Ask HN: What's the "best" book you've ever read?

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No, and I don't know who he is either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slate_Star_Codex Its at least a bit interesting that this idea that "Ayn Rand exists as a roundabout litmus test for assholes" is quite weird, one I've never heard before, except from him. To arrive independently at the exact same, weird conclusion, there must be something to it.

"Ayn Rand exists as a roundabout litmus test for assholes" is a pretty widely held idea. I've never read a book of hers, but the extracts I've read... well, I can see why people say that.

Re: Ask HN: What's the "best" book you've ever read?

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Although I'm not generally into fantasy, I found "The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant" by Stephen Donaldson to be fantastic. I tried to start it twice and gave up (there are some disturbing elements) but once I got into it I was hooked. Loved that the hero wasnt into being a hero and was deeply flawed. For non fiction, "Godel, Escher and Bach" is right up there, along with The Selfish Gene.

I have bought and read the entire decalogue of the Thomas covenant series. The first 2 trilogies were prime fantasy. The final quadrilogy probably deserves a re-read but it wasn't quite at the same level on the first read for me as the others. It's the only book that I can remember that has sent me scrambling for a dictionary as the sentences contained words whose meaning could not be discerned by inference. "The sur…

Although I absolutely loved the first two chronicles, I could not get into the last chronicles at all. I read the first 1.5 books of those and gave up.

Part of that is the extreme verbiage, as you point out. Really breaks the flow when you're reaching for a dictionary three times a page. I also frankly just didn't like anyone at all in the last chronicles, and stopped caring. But maybe that's just because of all the dictionary lookups!

Re: Ask HN: What's the "best" book you've ever read?

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Impossible to pick one... best I can do is five-ish, all fiction: The Odyssey; David Copperfield; Moby-Dick; Anna Karenina; Borges' short stories, in particular Ficciones & The Aleph

Do you have any comments on how to best absorb Ficciones? I read it recently and struggled through the whole book, needless to say, I don't comprehend why many hold that book on such a high pedestal.

Borges is not really an amazing writer, literary-wise. His works are popular because they are essentially mental puzzles in short story form. In this way, he's very similar to most sci-fi writers, which is why both Borges and sci-fi tend to be liked by mathematically-inclined people. These works are praised for their ideas, not their forms.

Re: Ask HN: What's the "best" book you've ever read?

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' Bashō, dichter zonder dak ' with the subtitle ' Haiku en poëtische reisverhalen ' by professor Willy Vande Walle, a Belgian Japanologist. It's a translation of Basho's travel diaries with a lot of contextual information, kind of like Martin Gardner's ' The Annotated Alice ', if you've read that one. It's an amazing intellectual tour de force by one of the foremost experts in his field, and it helps that the origina…

> how awful of a language Dutch is to learn Curious, why do you think so? As a Russian I found Dutch to be much easier to learn than Japanese, and English knowledge helps. The largest problem by far is Dutch speakers falling back to English almost always.

Well, as a native speaker I don't really have first-hand experience to how hard it is, but here in Belgium it generally agreed on that it's easier for Flems (Dutch speakers) to learn French than for Walloons (French speakers) to learn Dutch. And past tenses of verbs in Dutch are absolutely borked, so much so that this past weekend my sister and I (and we're both quite well read) had no idea what the past tense was of a word, though which word it was escapes me at the moment.
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