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Re: Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you resurrect?

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Hypercard

You might enjoy LiveCode from https://livecode.com (GPL version at https://livecode.org ), it is like hypercard for the 21st century

I've been looking for something that could import existing Hypercard stacks and make it possible to keep working on them, even in a different format.

Re: Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you resurrect?

#822
post #813
post #429

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I have one sitting in my drawer; happy to send to you for free if you're interested in owning one. Just drop me a line.

I too have a Pebble that I'm happy to provide to anyone as well. OG Kickstarter edition. Free to a good home.

if the offer is still available, I'll take it. I'll pay shipping (I'm in europe, assume you are in the US).

Re: Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you resurrect?

#823

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> As a broader concept, a return to prevailing use of on-device processing and computation I don't think anyone ever liked developing for the web. It solved three problems pretty well: - Data portability: log in from anywhere, have your data at your fingertips. - App model: no broken installations of programs into desktop environments, dependency problems, DLL hell - No concern about the mostly broken Windows desktop…

The Windows desktop is "mostly broken"? That's news to me.

What I meant was, if you look at the state of non-expert users' PCs, they're unusable by power user standards.

There's so much malware, anti-virus that slows down all I/O, browser toolbars, etc. Just open Internet Explorer and see how long it takes. On my computer it takes Calling that anything but "broken" seems like a misnomer. Look at the 99% of computer users, not the 1% power users/people at companies with good IT groups.

Re: Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you resurrect?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Windows desktop is "mostly broken"? That's news to me.

What I meant was, if you look at the state of non-expert users' PCs, they're unusable by power user standards. There's so much malware, anti-virus that slows down all I/O, browser toolbars, etc. Just open Internet Explorer and see how long it takes. On my computer it takes Calling that anything but "broken" seems like a misnomer. Look at the 99% of computer users, not the 1% power users/people at companies with good…

This is an exaggeration, especially on modern Windows. I have a decent anecdotal sample size of average people whose PCs run fine and have no apparent infestations, including someone in their 70s with a laptop running Vista.

Re: Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you resurrect?

#825
post #431

Archie.

Such simpler times, back then.

How about Veronica. :-)

I first started using the Internet just after these weren't in use anymore but I worked for a local ISP/web host (remember those), and the boss and others had used things like Archie.

The ISP still ran a BBS at the time I started working there (and people were quickly switching to the Internet). We offered dial-up Internet access for people with Mac, Windows, and NT who wanted to use a Netscape, Eudora, Pegasus, et al. :-)

There was a service called Unix Internet where you could get an inexpensive account to dial in and explore the Internet from the command prompt, which was surprisingly fun.

These were the services I recall: BBS, dial-up Internet, dial-up Unix Internet, web hosting, co-location (i.e., we'd put your server in the basement/server room), ISDN, and T1.

Re: Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you resurrect?

#826
post #307

Mostly game engines I enjoyed. The Escape Velocity Engine for one, though clones exist. The Tiberian Sun/Red Alert 2 engine is this crazy mix of voxels, dynamic lighting, height-mapped terrain all in a fundamentally 2d environment which is really cool. I would have loved to read Starcraft's source code, but I imagine that'll never happen now with Remastered.

You should check out Endless Sky for a good open source remake of Escape Velocity. http://endless-sky.github.io

I have put many hours into that fine game. There's also NAEV

https://github.com/naev/naev

Re: Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you resurrect?

#828
Cakewalk 3.0 - it's the only MIDI sequencer which represents MIDI tracks as a grid, not as bars.

I can draw it! Now, all sequencers (rather: DAWs) paints MIDI this way:

ch [======] [===========]

- bar may contain empty regions, so the bar does not really represents notes

- if you want to copy only one beat, you have to split the beginning of the beat, split at the end of the beat, copy the beat, and paste as many time as you want, then you probably want to join them together

- it even worse, when you want to copy more than one track (channel)

Cakewalk 3.x style grid:

OOOOO...OOOOOOOOOOO...

You can select notes on beat boundaries, even more tracks. Then paste it to anywhere: there are merge-paste (pasted notes will be added to existing ones) and replace-paste (affected beats will contain only pasted notes).

Anyway, handling upbeats in this grid-style editing is not comfortable, but still better than using bars.

Re: Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you resurrect?

#829
post #267

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> electron eats so much cpu & memory simply because it's > still a web browser, it has to support all those 20 years > of HTML/CSS history and it was designed to do so for 10s > of tabs, so it has a lot of caches and other things. XULRunner does the same thing, includes, in addition, a full XML GUI language and assorted technologies and the full runtime distribution, on my Windows10 system, including debugging, crash…

I wonder what do you think about this: https://github.com/cztomsik/node-webrender node+react+servo, consumes ~30M ram on my osx (if you precompile typescript files) it's nowhere near to XUL but it's also little more powerful because of react (vdom is more dynamic than XML, it will be possible to use react-devtools and it should support HMR too)

I am actually only interested in scriptable XML technologies, so pretty much like Mozilla's XPFE (XUL) was.

Re: Ask HN: Which abandoned proprietary software would you resurrect?

#830
City of Heroes' an MMORPG by NCsoft. It was really good. Unfortunately, they made it a fremium game, whcih then tanked and then closed the whole thing down a few months later.

I wish they had open sourced it and gave it to the community instead of just shutting down and doing nothing with it.

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