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Ask HN: Why don't I see gold at the end of the remote working rainbow?

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Re: Ask HN: Why don't I see gold at the end of the remote working rainbow?

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Post by throw827474737 »

colinmhayes wrote: post #375
throw827474737 wrote: post #295

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> WFH seniors have reduced ability to mentor their juniors Why is that? I find screen-share mentoring on dev stuff that more fruitful I stuck to that even when forced back into office. Less covid, less other awkward closeness, better for ears and eyes :) (Admitted, only non-computer-work mentoring is different).

> Why is that? I believe it's because coworkers rarely talk about non work stuff when they are WFH. Maybe it's just my company, but when we were in office I felt everyone on the team had some sort of relationship with each other because we'd eat lunch or talk about sports, or even the weather. Now we pretty much only talk about work stuff, which ends up meaning we silo more and collaborate less.

That's a cultural (your?) problem (as well as the other responses) and not excluded per se by remote. Some people seem to be more shy virtually, for others it is the other way round?

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Post by dang »

PraetorianGourd wrote: post #748
cranium wrote: post #370

It may be a (over?)reaction to the generally poor working conditions in an office that suddenly do not exist when working at home. No manager passing by and disrupting your focus, no commute nightmare, no open space with distractions all around, no being physically captive when you are out of juice,... At home you are less constrained, and some people will value this freedom higher than the loss of social bond. I'm i…

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"Please don't fulminate."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

You did that more than once in this thread. No matter how annoying other people or you feel they are, it's not what the site is for and just makes the threads worse

Re: Ask HN: Why don't I see gold at the end of the remote working rainbow?

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Post by vel0city »

XajniN wrote: post #791
vel0city wrote: post #332

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> Now throw in minimum 0.5h + 0.5h commute Minimum half hour commute? Definitely not a minimum. I've had a by bicycle , 5 minutes by car, and my kid's daycare is on the way. Minimum commute is more like 5 minutes. Sure, maybe average commute is a good bit higher, but then say average not minimum.

The commute is counted from the moment you exit your home door. It’s 5 minutes only if you work across the street.

My home door is the garage door, so I'm already in my car "door to door". The distance is Sorry, I guess I was wrong, its 5 minutes and 38 seconds.

Re: Ask HN: Why don't I see gold at the end of the remote working rainbow?

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Post by weaksauce »

> I remember thinking after the first few weeks on my entry-level job that this couldn't possible be the horrible "working world" I have seen relatives complain about all their lives.

I really don't think any job in the honeymoon phase is going to be soul crushing like most people that complain are complaining about. It's when you are at that job for years and you are one or more of the following: underpaid, undervalued, understimulated, hostile work politics, no promotion path, no ownership, micromanaging, irresponsible deadlines, herculean deadlines because of mismanagement, underworked, overworked, etc.

pick your poison but it's almost never apparent when you are a few weeks in what is lacking at said job(if any). I do enjoy going into the office but it does also grind on you when you have to commute every day for a substantial part of it, and you have the monotony of it all.

of course not every job is like that but the ones that are exhibit those traits imo.

Re: Ask HN: Why don't I see gold at the end of the remote working rainbow?

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Post by XajniN »

vel0city wrote: post #814
XajniN wrote: post #791

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The commute is counted from the moment you exit your home door. It’s 5 minutes only if you work across the street.

My home door is the garage door, so I'm already in my car "door to door". The distance is Sorry, I guess I was wrong, its 5 minutes and 38 seconds.

Next time use your watch and see how much time passes between going out of your door and entering your office. And your door is not the garage door, but the one you use to enter the garage.

Re: Ask HN: Why don't I see gold at the end of the remote working rainbow?

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Post by vel0city »

XajniN wrote: post #817
vel0city wrote: post #814

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My home door is the garage door, so I'm already in my car "door to door". The distance is Sorry, I guess I was wrong, its 5 minutes and 38 seconds.

Next time use your watch and see how much time passes between going out of your door and entering your office. And your door is not the garage door, but the one you use to enter the garage.

I've looked at the clock before, it's been about 5 minutes. That's how I arrived at that value originally, as before needing to drop off my child at daycare I budgeted about 5 minutes to get to the office and was usually just about right. As mentioned, it's less than 3 miles on streets with 40+mph speeds. Sure, sometimes I get stopped on the by one of the two stop lights and it adds another minute and a half to my journey.

And ok, instead of my garage door it's my living room door 15 feet from my car door. Why not make it my bedroom door or shower door while we're at it.

Re: Ask HN: Why don't I see gold at the end of the remote working rainbow?

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Post by nikau »

Zedronar wrote: post #808
collyw wrote: post #778

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I find communication over messenger apps at least as distracting as the office.

There are usually ways for you as a user to customize these apps and make them less distracting (e.g. "Settings -> Notifications", etc).

Plus that lazy category of people who seek help without even trying can be ignored for a few hours, and when you reply its usually "oh yeah i figured it out"

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Post by xyzzyz »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #402
vel0city wrote: post #332

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> Now throw in minimum 0.5h + 0.5h commute Minimum half hour commute? Definitely not a minimum. I've had a by bicycle , 5 minutes by car, and my kid's daycare is on the way. Minimum commute is more like 5 minutes. Sure, maybe average commute is a good bit higher, but then say average not minimum.

Thats lucky for you but you must be aware of how uncharacteristic that is. When you get a new job that commute disappears unless the new job is close to the old job or you up and move.

You are wrong. Look up what average commute time is in US. 40+ minute commutes are uncharacteristic, except for a small fraction of Americans who live in a handful of metros.
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