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Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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I recall some scifi where some Diety/SuperAI left 'commandments' for humanity carved into giant monuments made of diamond. I presume that was considered the only thing that would survive deep time.

Eschaton in Singularitys Sky? "You shall not meddle with the lightcone of the recursive time-travelling super-intelligence you created?"

Ah yes, that was it.

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My favorite weird theory is the "Siluran hypothesis," which states that our industrial revolution was not the first. There are some events in sediment that look like what our industrial revolution will look like. (many millions of years ago, so yes, reptiles)

Yes. Trying to grasp a time span of one million years feels impossible, in the context of development of culture and technology. It seems quite unlikely to me that we are the first such development on this rock.

Seems likely to me that we are, given the age of the oldest fossils.

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Go to a big legal firm that's been around for at least a few hundred years. With them, set up a trust with a sufficient endowment to be run indefinitely (barring total societal or economic collapse), with the mission of maintaining this specific website in accessible format (including updates and format shifts as necessary). It will be expensive, but this general structure is already used by various organizations wit…

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Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Short story where SETI programmers turn new message hunting code on archived files and it detects a message in the human genome rather than in radio signals from the cosmos: https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/sftriple/gpic.html ( https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/252832/short-story... )

I really wish someone would make a good sci-fi movie around stories like this. No space lasers or wormholes, just high concept stories

You might like the "man from earth". It isn't exactly what you've described here, but it's a great movie. The entire thing takes place as a conversation amongst a group of friends where they extrapolate out on somebody's seemingly crazy assertion.

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For a truly lasting legacy, I vote for vinyl. Plastic lasts forever, and the format is easy to reverse-engineer.

My grandpa had an old record player that included a "16 2/3 rpm" speed setting (33 1/3 divided by 2) which was apparently used for 2-hour spoken word performances (think audiobooks, comedy shows...)

Any recent format for storing video, audio, and even text is lkely to be undecipherable in a matter of decades.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Such an interesting thing to think about. The implications of (relative to a human life) long periods of time are overwhelming. At some point, even if somehow the information is intact, who will read it, and why? The barrier to entry scales with time, add technology and it probably scales at a geometric rate, for anything which is not held in such high cultural esteem that it is constantly maintained and updated.

Sure, we can play Dungeon (1975) today with relative ease. Most won't. But what about all the other games that probably survived but nobody knows about, because they weren't historically significant enough?

This probably goes for any cultural articact music, writing, paintings.

It becomes lost, if not physically, then in the giant volume of knowledge that exists in the world, but nobody knows about.

A poem, in an ASCII file, on an obsolete file system, in some disk image with an operating system for an architecture not produces in a hundred years, that could be emulated by an emulator for another architecture no produces in a hundred years, now residing on some medium, on some machine, somewhere, all will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

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That assumes language will continue to evolve the same way now as it did 1,000 years ago. Back then everyone couldn't read and people were separated. With mass media that's no longer the case.

Compare your texting to 18th century personal letters. I don't disagree, but language will still evolve significantly. Perhaps our developer docs will come to be seen as some kind of rare "Formal English" (I mean, it kind of is already) and the rest of communication will be in ... emoji??

Naturally, but it's going to evolve differently with so many people connected via the internet.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Short story where SETI programmers turn new message hunting code on archived files and it detects a message in the human genome rather than in radio signals from the cosmos: https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/sftriple/gpic.html ( https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/252832/short-story... )

I really wish someone would make a good sci-fi movie around stories like this. No space lasers or wormholes, just high concept stories

This feels like it might fit a series like The X-Files or The Outer Limits more than a full movie; there isn't much more to it than the twist; aside from that it's a story about some people.

If you don't mind them being shorts, there are some good sci-fi stories on the Dust and Omeleto channels on YouTube. e.g. this "One Minute Time Machine" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBkBS4O3yvY - has just two people, a bench, and a Time MacGuffin.

Or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOwKExagzdQ - "The Tunnel Ahead", 15 minute short set in an overpopulated world.

I do feel that many include space because it's fun and can be CGI modelled, or time travel because it makes for a cheap sci-fi plot, and if you rule those out you get things like The OceanMaker ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWCGK4nneeU ) which I didn't like so much because nothing really happens. Whether there are more concepty ones with more nuanced plot, they probably didn't catch my eye to watch.

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