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Re: Ask HN: Did you get "never have to work again rich" through software?

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Post by graeme » Wed, Jul 02, 2014, 6:03 PM UTC

personlurking wrote: post #55

capisce wrote: post #39

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How easy is it to find places to rent is these locations? Through Airbnb and such it seems you end up paying quite a high monthly rent.

As someone more or less in the OPs situation (greg), you stay in a hostel for a few days while looking at local ads or knocking on doors. If someone doesn't have a room or apt, they likely will take you to a neighbor who does. I've lived for many, many months on what people back home (US) spend on food per month. To do this, you might have to lower standards a little and increase the importance of having new experien…

>knocking on doors

Specific doors, or you just approach families and ask them if they or someone else is looking for a lodger?

I'm considering doing long stay travel this winter, and want to figure out some logistics beforehand. I was thinking of renting airbnb for a few days, then looking for something with these characteristics:

  * Private (could be attached to a family residence)
  * Meals cooked
  * Cleaning and laundry handled
  * Not terribly expensive. I speak the local languages of the places I plan to travel to, which should help.

Any experience finding that kind of accommodation, or do you know how you'd look for that kind of place if you had more money?

Re: Ask HN: Did you get "never have to work again rich" through software?

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Post by noir_lord » Wed, Jul 02, 2014, 6:03 PM UTC

nols wrote: post #53

iretired wrote: post #50

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[Thanks, japhyr, for pointing that out although we obviously disagree] Actually, I've already figured that out. This guy is going to be my friend for the rest of my life even though I've only known him for a year. Several times it's happened that we both make excuses to ditch our respective girlfriends to just hang out alone together, drink wine and talk about life. Women have almost no intellectual curiosity. It is…

The Red Pill is leaking onto HN now? Damn

That and a healthy dose of troll.

It's an entertainingly daft read if nothing else.

Re: Ask HN: Did you get "never have to work again rich" through software?

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Post by pessimizer » Wed, Jul 02, 2014, 6:04 PM UTC

dllthomas wrote: post #75

pessimizer wrote: post #73

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http://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/72663/1/cesifo_wp4222... Subjective Well-Being and Income: Is there any Evidence of Satiation? "Many scholars have argued that once 'basic needs' have been met, higher income is no longer associated with higher in subjective well-being. We assess the validity of this claim in comparisons of both rich and poor countries, and also of rich and poor people within a country. Analyzin…

"is roughly linear-log and does not diminish as incomes rise" That is inconsistent. What I believe they are trying to say is that there is no sharp cut-off. If the relationship is always roughly linear-log, then it always diminishes as incomes rise.

No, they're saying that there's no cut-off. More money always brings more happiness.

Re: Ask HN: Did you get "never have to work again rich" through software?

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Post by dllthomas » Wed, Jul 02, 2014, 6:06 PM UTC

pessimizer wrote: post #83

dllthomas wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"is roughly linear-log and does not diminish as incomes rise" That is inconsistent. What I believe they are trying to say is that there is no sharp cut-off. If the relationship is always roughly linear-log, then it always diminishes as incomes rise.

No, they're saying that there's no cut-off. More money always brings more happiness.

Ah, I shoehorned a "rate" in there somewhere. The rate always decreases, the amount always increases.

Re: Ask HN: Did you get "never have to work again rich" through software?

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Post by japhyr » Wed, Jul 02, 2014, 6:07 PM UTC

jbernier wrote: post #76

japhyr wrote: post #67

No. But I found a pretty good approach to making a satisfying life without having to "make it rich". In my twenties, I moved to the part of the world where I most enjoyed vacationing, and built my life there. Now every day on my way to work, I look around and couldn't be happier with where I am. Even on the hard days, I have almost everything I really want in life pretty close by, and that pretty consistently helps m…

Where are you if you don't mind me asking?

I grew up in New Hampshire, but now I live in southeast Alaska.

I found a third-grade autobiography once: "When I grow up I'm going to live in Arizona, California, or Alaska." I had no idea how far back I had the desire to move west.

Re: Ask HN: Did you get "never have to work again rich" through software?

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 02, 2014, 6:09 PM UTC

Eyas wrote: post #80

iretired wrote: post #34

I feel obliged to comment, although not with my normal HN username. I’m 41. I retired two years ago at the age of 39. I spent 18 years working in Silicon Valley at four different companies of various sizes. At 29 I was promoted to a first-level manager. Two of the companies I worked for were successful while I was there, although not spectacularly so. Mostly I minimized my costs. For the last five years of my career,…

Reading this post was very uncomfortable, especially the follow-ups describing women as having "no intellectual curiosity", but also the general tone. I was also perplexed at how many others described this as an ideal life -- perhaps they were just referring to the raw facts (lots of fun, dating, throwing good parties, etc.) and not actually adopting many of the implicit attitudes in there. Still, I couldn't help but…

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Re: Ask HN: Did you get "never have to work again rich" through software?

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Post by sequoia » Wed, Jul 02, 2014, 6:09 PM UTC

iretired wrote: post #34

I feel obliged to comment, although not with my normal HN username. I’m 41. I retired two years ago at the age of 39. I spent 18 years working in Silicon Valley at four different companies of various sizes. At 29 I was promoted to a first-level manager. Two of the companies I worked for were successful while I was there, although not spectacularly so. Mostly I minimized my costs. For the last five years of my career,…

> I date a succession of girls in their twenties. 27 or 28 is about the cutoff for me. And they’re attractive girls: they’re not the twentysomething warpigs you see lumbering through the cubicle hallways of Silicon Valley. My girlfriend at the moment is 20, which is less than half my age. But I date other girls on the side.

What the fuck does this have to do with anything? Go posture somewhere else you uninteresting braggart.

Re: Ask HN: Did you get "never have to work again rich" through software?

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Post by callmeed » Wed, Jul 02, 2014, 6:11 PM UTC

diego wrote: post #18

Yes. I sold IndexTank to LinkedIn among other things. It was a gradual process for me that started with the first dot-com boom. It wasn't as big of a deal as I thought it would be. I was 41. Cashing out stock from public companies I've been at, selling consulting services before building IndexTank, selling IndexTank. I don't think there is such a thing as overall happiness. I do live in the present more than I used t…

* > I was 41*

Boom. First of all, congrats on that success.

Second, I love hearing stories like this. I'm sure I'm biased because I'm in my late 30s but it's a nice break from all the tech wunderkind profiles in the media and the ageism of VCs & startups.

Re: Ask HN: Did you get "never have to work again rich" through software?

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 02, 2014, 6:12 PM UTC

iretired wrote: post #50

hitchhiker999 wrote: post #38

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nice! The many girls thing will rapidly get boring though. Friends thing never will.

[Thanks, japhyr, for pointing that out although we obviously disagree] Actually, I've already figured that out. This guy is going to be my friend for the rest of my life even though I've only known him for a year. Several times it's happened that we both make excuses to ditch our respective girlfriends to just hang out alone together, drink wine and talk about life. Women have almost no intellectual curiosity. It is…

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Re: Ask HN: Did you get "never have to work again rich" through software?

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Post by Domenic_S » Wed, Jul 02, 2014, 6:14 PM UTC

michaelochurch wrote: post #33

tylermac1 wrote: post #23

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Wouldn't frequent panic attacks warrant a change in workplace? Or at least an attempt from your company to make you comfortable? (This is assuming that you've brought it up to them, which you should do)

Wouldn't frequent panic attacks warrant a change in workplace? I don't have them often anymore, and they're pretty manageable at this point. When I started having them, there were discernible triggers and they were debilitating. Now they tend to happen at random (but are rare and rarely intense enough to be more than an unpleasant experience) and, 15 minutes later, I'm back to normal. This is assuming that you've bro…

> Telling my manager at Google about these issues led him to toy with me for months, and the fallout really fucked up my career.

I'm really sorry to hear about that. They could have handled things a lot better.

I had my first panic attack a few years ago, trigged by non-work-related stuff. Everyone in my group up to the VP really went above and beyond supporting me through it. Thing is, that support built loyalty. I haven't had a panic attack in years now, but I'm still at that same company because of the kindness and caring the management showed. It was a real spark of that now rare, old-school silicon valley "caring about people" attitude and they showed me by example the kind of manager I want to be.

Also, I know from experience everyone and their brother hands out advice and remedies, but look into Propranalol. It's a beta-blocker with no mental effect and no known long-term side-effects. Public speakers and concert musicians take it to keep the physical symptoms of panic away. It totally blocks the heart palpitations, shaking and sweating. Block the symptoms and the rest takes care of itself - at least it did for me.