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Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

#82
If you freely give Google access to display ads on your computer, they will do so at every opportunity until you can not take it any more.

The obvious method to prevent this is to deny Google free access to your hardware, and thus stop their efforts at displaying ads to you. Alternative, one could stop interacting with Google altogether, but thats a bit more drastic step.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

#83

I don't know why it did't happen sooner. I started pre-roll seeing ads on mobile as well, which I don't remember until recently. I don't get why it's disgusting. This is how video creators and Google are supposed to get paid. It's annoying to me that people want free content, and they keep pushing companies to "get traction first, then monetize". This is what has to happen, or else Google has to keep subsidizing prog…

To me they are annoying because they disallow you to skip them for the first few seconds. Their targeting also doesn't do a very good job. But let me tell you the real problem with YouTube ads. Recently in my country there has been a public outcry against a mining project, which is dangerous not only because of ecological reasons, but also because it needs special laws that trump our constitutional rights and the who…

The real problem is the viewer who get suckered. Let people watch both and learn to make decisions for themselves.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

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The problem I have is the really shitty targeting. With as much as Google must know about me, their ads usually are about stuff I have absolutely no interest in. I am from smaller country, so I get that the pool of advertisers must be smaller too. I bought a new bike this year and religiously researched this topic and consumed a ton of cycling videos. What ads do I see? Cars. I don't have a driver's license. Facebook…

You want to talk about shitty targeting, I pull up a Radiohead clip and the entire background becomes an ad for Rihanna.

Great work YouTube.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should read this: https://adblockplus.org/blog/acceptable-ads-by-the-numbers after hearing a talk Robert Hansen gave at AppSec USA, I then realize why adblock plus has been doing a poor job :( it can't stop most of the pop ups and ads anymore.

I think you misunderstand. AdBlock doesn't force this whitelisting, it merely defaults to using it.

Did you just say they default to use the whitelist ad program?

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me they are annoying because they disallow you to skip them for the first few seconds. Their targeting also doesn't do a very good job. But let me tell you the real problem with YouTube ads. Recently in my country there has been a public outcry against a mining project, which is dangerous not only because of ecological reasons, but also because it needs special laws that trump our constitutional rights and the who…

If anyone from Google is reading this: what happened to "don't be evil"?

1. Making money is not evil.

2. Adverts only appear on YouTube for videos where monetization has been enabled or a third party owns the rights to the content. The description given by the GP post is somewhat misleading.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

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The problem I have is the really shitty targeting. With as much as Google must know about me, their ads usually are about stuff I have absolutely no interest in. I am from smaller country, so I get that the pool of advertisers must be smaller too. I bought a new bike this year and religiously researched this topic and consumed a ton of cycling videos. What ads do I see? Cars. I don't have a driver's license. Facebook…

It's surprising that none of these content providers are delivering targeted ads. You're totally right, for as much information as we've given these companies, video ads remain completely irrelevant to individuals.

For online video in general, it seems like Facebook is the company missing the largest opportunity. With the demographic information they've acquired over the years, they could easily leverage Facebook Connect on all the video platforms where authentication is utilized. It seems like the hardest part is building up ad inventory to support various demographics.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

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post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Give AdblockEdge a try. It's a true open source clean fork of AdblockPlus, and it doesn't have the "acceptable ads" whitelisted, which are only whitelisted in some cases because Google/etc. paid them off.

I work on Adblock Plus and would like to clarify some things: 1. Adblock Plus is fully open source, has always been, will always be. Everything else we do is open source too, including our infrastructure and backend systems. ( https://hg.adblockplus.org/ ) 2. Adblock Edge is an unmaintained (edit: Not true, there've been some changes lately) fork of an old Adblock Plus version, with the Acceptable Ads feature removed…

I don't think it's fair to say that Adblock Edge is unmaintained when it has more recent updates than Adblock Plus:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-edge/...

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/...

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

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post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me they are annoying because they disallow you to skip them for the first few seconds. Their targeting also doesn't do a very good job. But let me tell you the real problem with YouTube ads. Recently in my country there has been a public outcry against a mining project, which is dangerous not only because of ecological reasons, but also because it needs special laws that trump our constitutional rights and the who…

I don't think you can place ads in any movie--only movies that have the "monetization" feature enabled. It's the same issue as with Google AdSense, though there you have options to exclude certain ads.

I have a hard time believing that the radio select in YouTube's settings works, because I'm talking about dozens of videos, posted by different publishes, all of them with ads from the company I'm talking about. Maybe the publishers in question weren't aware of that setting.

Let me tell you more - I was visiting the US when the protests started and I posted YouTube links on my Facebook account, completely unaware that the videos in question were served with those ads, because those ads targeted only Romanians. The act of publishing a link is also an act of publishing. When I publish a link, I should be completely aware of what I'm publishing, OK?

Also, we go back full circle to monetization needs. I'm not seeing controls in YouTube for banning certain ads from happening. That radio select is a global switch. You either want ads or you don't. Also the question is stupid. Because it's an opt-out and if you are unaware of the setting, you're implicitly opted-in AND most importantly, that doesn't mean you'll receive any money from your views and likes [1]. Like, seriously?

[1] https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2490020?hl=en

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