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Ask HN: Why is my Claude experience so bad? What am I doing wrong?

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Re: Ask HN: Why is my Claude experience so bad? What am I doing wrong?

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Post by realusername »

somewhereoutth wrote: post #49
heyts wrote: post #25

I’m probably going to be downvoted for this but this thread doesn’t really reflect well on the promises of Generative AI and particularly the constantly reiterated assurance that we’re on the verge of a new industrial Revolution.

Agreed. Many of the suggestions are pretty much code it yourself, but without actually tapping the individual keys. Furthermore, and more generally, one of the great things about (traditional) coding is that it allows 'thinking through making' - by building something you learn more about the problem and thus how best to solve it. Code generation just leaves you with reviewing, which is less powerful in this way I bel…

I said it since the very first video of somebody who built a login page with it. They kept adding more and more constraints and at some point it's just coding but with extra steps.

It doesn't mean those tools do not have value though but they're not capable of "coding ", in the sense we mean in the industry, and generating code isn't coding.

Re: Ask HN: Why is my Claude experience so bad? What am I doing wrong?

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Post by realusername »

wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #12

Claude is a programming assistant not a programmer. You still need knowledge of what you are building so you can drive it, guide it, fix things. This is the core of the question about LLM assisted programming - what happens when non programmers use it?

> what happens when non programmers use it?

We have the answer already, which product was fully built by a non-programmer with those tools? I can't find an example.

They just trip into their own code at some point and if there's nobody to watch, they end up with something they can't recover from.

It's especially devastating when they don't know enough git to get back on tracks

Re: Ask HN: Why is my Claude experience so bad? What am I doing wrong?

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Post by Jeremy1026 »

kuschku wrote: post #55
cladopa wrote: post #32

What you are trying to do is quite easy to do with Claude. I have done way more complex things than that in hours. But having programming, managing(with humans) and engineering experience is extremely useful. It seems you try to tell the tool to do everything in one shot. That is a very wrong approach, not just with Claude but with everything(you ask a woman for a date and if you do not get laid in five minutes you f…

That's significantly more work (and effort) than just doing it yourself, though? Even for larger, complicated projects.

Not even close. A friend and I are working on an iOS game (a tower defense style game). We are writing 0 code ourselves. We both have a history of iOS development, he is still actively involved and I've move away from it in recent years.

In about 2 weeks we have a functional game, 60 levels, 28 different types of enemies, a procedurally generated daily challenge mode, an infinity mode. Tower crafting and upgrades, an economy system in the game for pay for the upgrades.

This likely would have taken us months to get to the point that we are at, it was playable on Day 2.

Re: Ask HN: Why is my Claude experience so bad? What am I doing wrong?

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Post by 4b11b4 »

Put it in plan mode.

Then, repeatedly ask Claude to criticize the plan and use the "AskUserQuestion" tool to ask for your input.

Keep criticizing and updating the plan until your gut says Claude is just trying to come up with things that aren't actually issues anymore.

Then unleash it (allow edits) and see where you get. From there you may ask for one off small edits. Or go back into plan mode again

Re: Ask HN: Why is my Claude experience so bad? What am I doing wrong?

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Post by csomar »

Stop wasting your time and money. There's a lot of money being spent to get very known individuals to praise this vibe-coding.

Think about AI the same way you'd think about trading courses: would you buy a course that promises 10,000% returns? If such returns were possible, the course seller would just trade instead of selling courses.

Same logic here - if "vibe-coding" really worked at scale, Claude would be selling software, not tokens.

Re: Ask HN: Why is my Claude experience so bad? What am I doing wrong?

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Post by nitroedge »

mickeyr wrote: post #78

I’ve had good luck using https://github.com/gsd-build/get-shit-done It will ask you questions, break down the project into smaller tasks, work through them one by one with UAT check points along the way. It also handles managing your context

i added a comment about GSD here and it was nice to see yours too... I'm just a user of GSD but boy has it changed the context rot I used to experience and the system is just one-shotting everything I ask from basic to complex and finally being able to handle stuff and not make things up and mess stuff up (or go in circles)...

Re: Ask HN: Why is my Claude experience so bad? What am I doing wrong?

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Post by andrei_says_ »

kpil wrote: post #33

The truth is that there is a lot of hype. You need to be reasonably experienced and guide it. First, you need to know that Claude will create nonsensical code. On a macro level it's not exactly smart it just has a lot of contextual static knowledge. Debugging is not it's strongest skill. Most models don't do good at all. Opus is able to one-shot "troubleshooting" prompts occasionally, but it's a high probability that…

Am I crazy thinking that interacting with such a system is a nightmarishly frustrating way to write code?

Like trying to write with a wet noodle - always off in some way.

Write the code feels way more precise and not less efficient.

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